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      04-01-2020, 04:09 PM   #45
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I found it funny how many people brought this up when the car was introduced. Yes, it is slightly angled but I find it surprising that it would bother someone.

I think it's way better than for example VW pedals being way closer to the center of the car.
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      04-01-2020, 05:13 PM   #46
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Well it sounds like there is no kit out there. Disappointed to hear the M3/3 series might be worse. I can live with it but it will likely mean I won't buy out the M2 at the end of the lease. I wonder if the RS4 or C63 seats are crooked as well. Maybe it's a segment/vehicle dimensions thing...I'm not a big guy (6 foot, ~180pds). This is the only sports car I've owned where the seating position is this noticeably offset. (And I've owned a few)
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I never had a problem of parking straight until I had the M2.
Same here. Never considered the problem to be the seat... interesting.
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With all due respect, it appears to me some people are overly sensitive to what amounts to a few degrees of angle off center. I've never noticed it and it definitely doesn't make me park crooked.... are you guys serious?
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With all due respect, it appears to me some people are overly sensitive to what amounts to a few degrees of angle off center. I've never noticed it and it definitely doesn't make me park crooked.... are you guys serious?


I completely agree. This whole conversation seems like an April fools joke.
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With all due respect, it appears to me some people are overly sensitive to what amounts to a few degrees of angle off center. I've never noticed it and it definitely doesn't make me park crooked.... are you guys serious?
Yes, seating position is important. For me I've had a couple of serious high speed sporting accidents and have recovered from back, shoulder and rib injuries. I need to be straight behind the wheel if driving for long periods or I get issues. I've never experienced these difficulties with other vehicles besides the M2 so I was looking for a solution to straighten the seat.

Here's what we can confirm:
1 - the seat is crooked
2 - there doesn't seem to be an easy/safe way to straighten it
3 - Majority of people do not have issues with it.
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      04-02-2020, 08:23 AM   #51
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The crooked parking is due to the planform of the car and not the seat. The car is slightly trapezoidal, meaning the front of the car is slightly narrower than the back. This is why you also feel the seat is pointing left. Optical "delusion".

I was told by a designer that this "arrow head" shape makes the car look like it is sleeker and in motion. Like drawing a perspective in architecture with the vanishing point.

Most people use the line formed by the left side of the car to line up parallel with a line on the ground, wall , etc.

Since the side of the car is more or less a straight line, then that line up results in an the right side angling left in relation to the rectangle that is the parking space.

You can try this by having someone help you park with the right side parallel to the line on the ground. Then you will notice that the left side of the car angles right.

I've had this issue with all 2 door M's since they all had this "trapezoidal" plan form. I did not have the problem with the M5 since it is much more rectangular. The worst one was the 135, it was very pronounced.

So next time you park, you want to feel as is you are parking "crooked" with the car "apparently" pointing slightly right.
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The crooked parking is due to the planform of the car and not the seat. The car is slightly trapezoidal, meaning the front of the car is slightly narrower than the back. This is why you also feel the seat is pointing left. Optical "delusion".

I was told by a designer that this "arrow head" shape makes the car look like it is sleeker and in motion. Like drawing a perspective in architecture with the vanishing point.

Most people use the line formed by the left side of the car to line up parallel with a line on the ground, wall , etc.

Since the side of the car is more or less a straight line, then that line up results in an the right side angling left in relation to the rectangle that is the parking space.

You can try this by having someone help you park with the right side parallel to the line on the ground. Then you will notice that the left side of the car angles right.

I've had this issue with all 2 door M's since they all had this "trapezoidal" plan form. I did not have the problem with the M5 since it is much more rectangular. The worst one was the 135, it was very pronounced.

So next time you park, you want to feel as is you are parking "crooked" with the car "apparently" pointing slightly right.
I think you're 100% spot on, I'm more inclined to believe this is the case. I've noticed this when using the tilting passenger side mirror in reverse, that you can't really use the rear quarter panel as a guide for what's straight because it's so wide and angles out (part of the reason for its aggressive/good looks).
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Just tried to let this bother me again, and nope, doesn't at all. It's such a small difference. But again, that could be because I'm short and have the seat all the way up.
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How about a steering wheel straightening kit.
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I'm sure you can put an angled piece of foam on the backrest to offset it.

To the guy saying the wider track width in the rear explains parking crooked, I really don't see how that explains it at all.

For me, the crooked parking is when I line up the car with something in front of it. For example, when I park in a parking garage and there is a wall in front of me. Or in a parking lot, with another car in front of me. What I'm doing, unknowingly at the time, was lining up my chest/eyes parallel with the object in front of me. And my chest and eyes being at an angle due to the seat throw that off.

In all other parking situations, I'm lining up the door panel and front wheel of my car with the sides of the parking space. So the relation of where my head/body is at doesn't matter.
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^^ Jeez...You missed the whole point. It is an optical thing. The front wall has very little to do with parking straight.

Besides most parking lots don't have front walls.
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^^ Jeez...You missed the whole point. It is an optical thing. The front wall has very little to do with parking straight.

Besides most parking lots don't have front walls.
If you could explain what whole point I missed, that'd certainly be helpful.

Though seems like you missed my point, because I never said I park crooked every time. I explained that it is when there is an object in front of me I am lining up with, instead of otherwise lining the side of the car up with the parking lines.
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