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      04-19-2021, 02:30 PM   #1
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PPF question for the M2cs

I'm looking to get XPEL PPF this week and have an appointment scheduled for tomorrow.

Regarding the Rocker panels and front of the rear arches, should I get the basic package or the extended package?

The extended package basically adds protection in front of the rear arches. However, the M2cs already has a pretty good sized piece of PPF there already from factory.

So, do I really want them taking off the factory PPF and then reapplying XPEL? It's an additional $220 bucks for the extended package.
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100% - any good shop can take off the factory PPF without issue. I didn't do this initially for my M3 and in a couple weeks I accrued plenty of rock chips in that wheel arch that I had to ignore after.

So I took extra precuations with my M2 CS - not only did I have them rip off the factory film - they replaced it will full quarter panel xpel ultimate plus in that area and I asked them to double up the protection in the high impact area with another film ontop. It came out cut evenly and super clean on both sides, not noticable at all.

I did this on my roof as well with the front 1/4 being covered twice for added protection.

That wheel arch area is the worse to repair dings, etc - so the more protection I could get on it the happier I was. Secondly, once that areas get ravished, I can simply replace with another piece ontop without replacing the more expensive QTR panel.

If you're not looking to do the entire QTR panel, I would def have them do an extended area and have them double up - some rocks will penetrate one layer of film and in that high impact area - the more you can do the better, imo

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On this car, you want to get every area covered with PPF minus what is basically the trunk, and the rear bumper except for the XPel pieces that protect the area on the rear bumper behind the wheels.

Everything else get covered. The sides get annihilated without PPF due to the shape of the car. You can get just the front leading edge of the roof protected, but i'd recommend just doing the entire thing to prevent yellowing over time of the uncovered portion of the roof.

And yes, as the person above stated, make certain you get the area above the rear wheels doubled up on, or have them use the thicker XPel. With just a single layer of normal PPF, because the rocks are being launched right at this surface, the PPF in that area will get damaged fast.

I screwed up and didn't get the side skirts PPF'd, and both are basically ruined on my car now. I'm just going to run them until they are god-awful and get them resprayed eventually, even though the blue will be difficult to match. I also didn't get the rear quarters PPF'd initially, and the factory film is completely inadequate in coverage (Coupled with how thin BMW's paint is now.). I had chips all around it, fortunately there was only one chip that was so bad that the film didn't hide it.

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I had mine fully wrap and recommend to double up on the rear quarter panel so you can replace a smaller piece later. I already got two chipped in that area so it's doing its job but I wish I knew to double up like the post above mentioned To avoid replacing the entire piece later on.
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I'm looking to get XPEL PPF this week and have an appointment scheduled for tomorrow.

Regarding the Rocker panels and front of the rear arches, should I get the basic package or the extended package?

The extended package basically adds protection in front of the rear arches. However, the M2cs already has a pretty good sized piece of PPF there already from factory.

So, do I really want them taking off the factory PPF and then reapplying XPEL? It's an additional $220 bucks for the extended package.
if you're going this far, invest a little more money and protect the car. I made the mistake of only doing the front, mirror caps, and rockers. I have the Cup 2 tires which kick up a ton of small rocks and the next week i was washing the car and found a small chip above the factory installed PPF (or whatever that piece is). the following week i made an appointment and did the whole rest of the car.
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Yea I learned my lesson of partial ppf on my m3. If rock chips bother you enough to the point of wrapping your front - what makes you think getting a chip in the door or quarter panel won’t bother after you already made an investment to protect the paint? Is that paint any less important?

IMO go all in or do nothing - it will bother you later if you’re the type to want to ppf your car in the first place and it WILL get chipped
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I put some TLG front mudflaps on my M2C. On the fence if I should do it for the CS, but it should cut down on the risk the chips to the quarter panel quite a bit.
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I put some TLG front mudflaps on my M2C. On the fence if I should do it for the CS, but it should cut down on the risk the chips to the quarter panel quite a bit.
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I had mine fully wrap and recommend to double up on the rear quarter panel so you can replace a smaller piece later. I already got two chipped in that area so it's doing its job but I wish I knew to double up like the post above mentioned To avoid replacing the entire piece later on.
I did both of these. Great suggestions. Also added large quarter section on top of full PPF. Only a couple hundred to replace that vs quite a bit more for full quarter or chips.

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Do the carbon "mud flaps" and as much of the car as you can. Its already there at the shop, now is the time. ON mine the only surfaces not done are the top of the trunk and the back of the rear bumper.
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100% - any good shop can take off the factory PPF without issue. I didn't do this initially for my M3 and in a couple weeks I accrued plenty of rock chips in that wheel arch that I had to ignore after.

So I took extra precuations with my M2 CS - not only did I have them rip off the factory film - they replaced it will full quarter panel xpel ultimate plus in that area and I asked them to double up the protection in the high impact area with another film ontop. It came out cut evenly and super clean on both sides, not noticable at all.

I did this on my roof as well with the front 1/4 being covered twice for added protection.

That wheel arch area is the worse to repair dings, etc - so the more protection I could get on it the happier I was. Secondly, once that areas get ravished, I can simply replace with another piece ontop without replacing the more expensive QTR panel.

If you're not looking to do the entire QTR panel, I would def have them do an extended area and have them double up - some rocks will penetrate one layer of film and in that high impact area - the more you can do the better, imo

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Thanks for the suggestion!

So, you did the full rear quarter panel in XPEL and then had them add another layer of XPEL that was smaller on top of that? Kinda like the size from the factory?

I didn't know you could double layer like that?

Question: can they PPF over the factory PPF panel? Why remove that?
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The factory PPF is not of very high quality. On my '17 it is already starting to yellow. I'm taking that car back for more extensive covering soon. You also may want to consider doubling up with Expel's Trac Wrap product. I have my base PPF and then double up with a replaceable layer of Trac Wrap when needed.
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The factory PPF is not of very high quality. On my '17 it is already starting to yellow. I'm taking that car back for more extensive covering soon. You also may want to consider doubling up with Expel's Trac Wrap product. I have my base PPF and then double up with a replaceable layer of Trac Wrap when needed.
Ok, so is the Track Wrap a thicker more expensive XPEL film?

Is it common to double PPF with that Track Wrap? Up until now, I didn't even know that's a thing?
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Trac Wrap, as the name suggests, is meant to be a temporary covering. It is purchased by the roll and you can order in different widths. I just use it to double up in certain spots for long road trips or if I know I'm going to be driving on poor roads.
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Has anyone used this on high impact areas?

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You don't want the 10mm one. When I have to replace my quarters that has the normal XPel Ultimate, i'll be trying the 7mm version next time. I beleive the 7mm version should be enough on the quarters.

The rest of the car will do just fine with the normal Xpel thickness. The issue with the quarters is that due to the angle, it allows the debris to 'grab' the PPF and puncture.
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What the thickness of standard xpel?
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You don't want the 10mm one. When I have to replace my quarters that has the normal XPel Ultimate, i'll be trying the 7mm version next time. I beleive the 7mm version should be enough on the quarters.

The rest of the car will do just fine with the normal Xpel thickness. The issue with the quarters is that due to the angle, it allows the debris to 'grab' the PPF and puncture.
I believe the measure is mils not mm. 7mm = .28 inches. 1 mill = 1/1000 of an inch.
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I don't want to get far off the beaten path here but has anybody noticed a big difference once moving away from the cup2 tires in terms of rash? As a previous poster mentioned, the Cup2's hang on to every pebble and rock and I am curious if another set of tires (not so sticky) alleviates some of the concern? Any real world experience would be 👍🏻
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I don't want to get far off the beaten path here but has anybody noticed a big difference once moving away from the cup2 tires in terms of rash? As a previous poster mentioned, the Cup2's hang on to every pebble and rock and I am curious if another set of tires (not so sticky) alleviates some of the concern? Any real world experience would be 👍🏻
I had Michelin PSS on my F80 and never had an issue with rock chips on the doors or quarter panels. My front bumper and hood were thrashed from the daily commute as I didn't have film on it, but the rest of the car was clean.

I have the PSS on CS as well, but I did full PPF at about 100 miles in. No marks to speak of at this point.
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I had my full CS wrapped. Every panel, spoiler, rear bumper, double wrapped on the side so I can peel it off later. The Factory PPF on the side is 3M and will turn yellow.
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