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      04-14-2021, 10:42 AM   #1
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I've had my '18 M2 fully wrapped in late 2017, and have 35k mi on the clock. My car is garage kept so not unnecessarily exposed to UV. I don't believe there is any yellowing, like prior PPF solutions, but I also think I look as good as I did when I was 35 when I look in the mirror (which ain't right). Anyone see long term issues? I've heard/read the 5 year mark as a replacement mark in the timeline. But I'm not seeing it. Thoughts?
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I've had my '18 M2 fully wrapped in late 2017, and have 35k mi on the clock. My car is garage kept so not unnecessarily exposed to UV. I don't believe there is any yellowing, like prior PPF solutions, but I also think I look as good as I did when I was 35 when I look in the mirror (which ain't right). Anyone see long term issues? I've heard/read the 5 year mark as a replacement mark in the timeline. But I'm not seeing it. Thoughts?
Xpel if installed by an authorized installer has a 10 year warranty. Given the cost I wouldn't remove it if it still looks good 5 years in.
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Has anyone see more issues sooner with Suntek than with XPEL?
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I would not remove / renew it based on any arbitrary time line. If it still looks good and is doing the job it is intended to do, I'd keep it as long as those conditions say the same.

For more subjective opinion, head to a Cars and Coffee like event, assuming you can find one given the current situation, or ask a reputable installer.
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I would not remove / renew it based on any arbitrary time line. If it still looks good and is doing the job it is intended to do, I'd keep it as long as those conditions say the same.

For more subjective opinion, head to a Cars and Coffee like event, assuming you can find one given the current situation, or ask a reputable installer.
Thanks for your comment. I wasn't looking to arbitrarily replace at a certain time. I should have been more clear. I'm curious if anyone has seen yellowing or other degradation of the film over longer periods of time.
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I would not remove / renew it based on any arbitrary time line. If it still looks good and is doing the job it is intended to do, I'd keep it as long as those conditions say the same.

For more subjective opinion, head to a Cars and Coffee like event, assuming you can find one given the current situation, or ask a reputable installer.
Thanks for your comment. I wasn't looking to arbitrarily replace at a certain time. I should have been more clear. I'm curious if anyone has seen yellowing or other degradation of the film over longer periods of time.
The only time I've seen issues with any ppf is if the film sees a ton of UV. UV kills everything.
PPF isn't some mythical magical force field. It does its job really really well but nothing is perfect or lasts forever.
With that said, if it still looks good, then it's fine. I have old Suntek on my truck and it was only a 5 year film. I can see approaching five years that I'll need to replace it soon.
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I had choice but went with what the installer preferred, he said suntek is easier to take off when its time, the xpel might strip paint

The suntek also improved the quality in the last few years , ive had it done like 2 yrs ago on front and hood, and it looks great
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I had choice but went with what the installer preferred, he said suntek is easier to take off when its time, the xpel might strip paint

The suntek also improved the quality in the last few years , ive had it done like 2 yrs ago on front and hood, and it looks great
I've not heard of stripping paint, especially through a clear coat. I suppose it's possible, but I've seen videos of xpel removal and didn't seem like ripping duct tape of a hairy leg. Lol
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I'm going to get steamrolled for this comment...

XPEL in my area is $2k for the front end

If I'm a 3-4 year holder of this car, it does not feel worth it
If I'm a long-term holder of this car, I don't think I would mind repainting the bumper at somepoint?

I guess I'm struggling with the recent phenomenon of perfect paint? I assume other things are not perfect on the car?
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      04-15-2021, 04:35 PM   #10
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I'm going to get steamrolled for this comment...

XPEL in my area is $2k for the front end

If I'm a 3-4 year holder of this car, it does not feel worth it
If I'm a long-term holder of this car, I don't think I would mind repainting the bumper at somepoint?

I guess I'm struggling with the recent phenomenon of perfect paint? I assume other things are not perfect on the car?
PPF is incredibly worth it (when done right with good film). If one tracks their car and doesn’t use it they are foolish. Any DD’d car with seasons or rough roads it is very worth it.

Removed PPF when I sold the 997 which spent 11 years as an advanced solo track car. When it was removed it looked like the car was showroom new i was shocked. Well worth its cost... YMMV
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      04-15-2021, 05:02 PM   #11
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I'm going to get steamrolled for this comment...

XPEL in my area is $2k for the front end

If I'm a 3-4 year holder of this car, it does not feel worth it
If I'm a long-term holder of this car, I don't think I would mind repainting the bumper at somepoint?

I guess I'm struggling with the recent phenomenon of perfect paint? I assume other things are not perfect on the car?
Yes but if you repaint the bumper then it just gets beat up again with swirls and everything, or you could PPF it and it could look brand new forever.
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