[gemini.m3]

Anyone figure out the cost to do this? 12k new? Anyone have the part numbers? not something I'm planning right away but something I do envision.. I just wonder if it'll hurt resale, I'd probably still keep the steel brakes.

For me it was PPF or ceramics and I chose the PPF.

I feel like I'm going to end up dropping another 18k on this car by getting the gold wheels to swap every now and then and the ceramic brakes.

[jessief29812]

What's the biggest reason you want to swap them?

[ND40oz]

You really only need the rotors and pads AFAIK but it appears to be cheaper to buy the whole retrofit kit.

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...it-34112358378

[AlpsRider]

Wow, I will put up with a lot of brake dust for $11,000.

[MomoM3]

I'm interested in moving to ceramic brakes too but it probably won't be until I actually need new brakes down the road.

I've heard invoice/cost for the CCB kit to be 10.5k. Not sure what dealer installation runs.

My main reason thinking about CCB is for no brake dust so I'm not certain there is any added benefit for street use in my case.

Maybe I'll treat myself to CCB retrofit one day if I decide to keep this car long-term (unsure).

[Golden3ye]

The CCB on this car is insane. It stops so damn hard with them it is actually crazy. Also no dust is sick as well.

[DocEyes]

Now that it’s warm enough to drive it up here in a Canada I’m regretting listening to my SA who said don’t get CCB. I’ve driven it all of 5 times and the wheels are coated in brake dust. Ugh!!!!

[medphysdave]

Just buy the rotor and pad retro fit kit. Maybe you can get a bit back for the calipers. My iron brakes squeal like hell. One of the big reasons my SA said not to get CCB. Lol. I prefer the red calipers. I'd probably buy the surface transforms rotors from racing brake. I believe they are s bit more durable and can be refinished for a very reasonable cost.

[mfarrzhp]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Just buy the rotor and pad retro fit kit. Maybe you can get a bit back for the calipers. My iron brakes squeal like hell. One of the big reasons my SA said not to get CCB. Lol. I prefer the red calipers. I'd probably buy the surface transforms rotors from racing brake. I believe they are s bit more durable and can be refinished for a very reasonable cost.

I agree the brake dust is crazy, but the wheels are really easy to clean. At least compared to my old 666Ms. It's a 10 minute job to spray, scrub, rinse and dry.

My hourly rate to clean the wheels is not enough to spend $12K on CCBs when the "standard brakes" are really good (short of the dust and the lower weight is nice). If I had found one optioned with CCBs, I would have got them.

[Got f1?]

Fairly certain the pistons in the CCB caliper are different material.

[specracer]

Open question to the posters that say just change pads and rotors, why does the upgrade kit include a brake booster? Or does the CS brake system already have this booster?

[2020M2Competition]

Originally Posted by specracer

Open question to the posters that say just change pads and rotors, why does the upgrade kit include a brake booster? Or does the CS brake system already have this booster?

The CCB's use a different booster and coding, as well

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by 2020M2Competition

The CCB's use a different booster and coding, as well

Is this true on the CS. I recall the iron and ccb brakes/discs being different diameter on previous cars, but I could be mistaken. I could see potential coding difference. I suspect a simple swap of rotors and pads will work fine. Racing brake said the pistons between the calipers were the same.

[AlpsRider]

I read somewhere that the pistons were titanium on the CCBs

[2020M2Competition]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Is this true on the CS. I recall the iron and ccb brakes/discs being different diameter on previous cars, but I could be mistaken. I could see potential coding difference. I suspect a simple swap of rotors and pads will work fine. Racing brake said the pistons between the calipers were the same.

Brake servo unit 34337849876 for M compound brakes on F8X cars (including larger 2NH brakes on M2C/M2CS)

Brake servo unit 34337850999 for M CCBs on F8X cars (2NK brakes)

Different brake servo unit and coding for CCBs due to significantly different coefficients of friction of materials

Rumor has it that the pistons in CCB calipers might be made of a different material due to the higher temperatures that the CCB can generate, but I have not been able to confirm that

The 2NH and 2NK piston sizes and caliper bodies (apart from paint) are the same

The 2NH and 2NK front rotors are the same diameter, but different thicknesses

2NH - 400x36mm

2NK - 400x38mm

HTH

[Bimmed Out]

I won’t go back to ceramics. Too easily chipped and too much squealing. I optioned steels on my CS (they are fantastic) and will return to steels on my 992 GT3. With this said, I wish those with ceramics great luck and long enjoyment.

[Golden3ye]

Originally Posted by Bimmed Out

I won’t go back to ceramics. Too easily chipped and too much squealing. I optioned steels on my CS (they are fantastic) and will return to steels on my 992 GT3. With this said, I wish those with ceramics great luck and long enjoyment.

When did the squealing start for you?

[AxM2CS]

My iron brakes seem to be squealing more as time goes on. Very noticeable (and annoying) of late. Not sure why the increase .. are they settling in, warmer temperatures, ...?

I'm interested in the CCB swap out at some point. Elimination of the crazy brake dust and much lower unsprung mass are two good reasons. But in no rush.

Yeah, it doesn't take long to clean the wheels, however it's a bummer to get the gold wheels up to a glorious shine only to see them "soiled" after one spirited drive.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Golden3ye

The CCB on this car is insane. It stops so damn hard with them it is actually crazy. Also no dust is sick as well.

Just tap the pedal in a daily drive, and you're stopped dead in your track.

My first CCB and hopefully not the last

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by AxM2CS

My iron brakes seem to be squealing more as time goes on. Very noticeable (and annoying) of late. Not sure why the increase .. are they settling in, warmer temperatures, ...?

I'm interested in the CCB swap out at some point. Elimination of the crazy brake dust and much lower unsprung mass are two good reasons. But in no rush.

Yeah, it doesn't take long to clean the wheels, however it's a bummer to get the gold wheels up to a glorious shine only to see them "soiled" after one spirited drive.

These brakes are meant to be used hard. Putting around in town causes them to squeak. A few hard stops will likely get rid of the squeaking temporarily. Jet washing the wheel/calipers usually gets rid of it also.

[robertm]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Just tap the pedal in a daily drive, and you're stopped dead in your track.

My first CCB and hopefully not the last

To be fair, the steel brakes feel the same. LOT of brake for the car. Would be interesting to hear from someone that's driven both back to back.

[AxM2CS]

Agree, the reason to go to CCBs would *not* be lack of stopping power of the irons. They're mighty for this little car.