[Artemis]

Originally Posted by W///

I'm really excited, and will probably get one after LCI as it'll most likely be my last pure ICE car.

As March 2025 is scheduled as EOP (end of production) for the original G87 M2, expect no G87 M2 LCI delivered prior to Spring 2025. That's still four years from now.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Personally I really hate the computer game instrument panel. I much prefer analog. The G87 might be a great end to an era or it might be too big and heavy for the M2 enthusiast type. We just don't know yet what the specs will be.

I don't think the g87 is going to be terrible enough and the f87 m2/m2c rare enough to make f87 values mirror the 1M. So to me, unless you won't consider a MT g87, it makes sense to consider the g87 as a possible future purchase until we know more.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Mo Reviews

The new 2 series, of which the new M2 will be based upon, is atrociously hideous.

The F87 will sadly likely be the last great M car before everything gets ruined by Greta and co. Hence, the sentiment of appreciating values.

I don't think we really know what the new 2 series looks like exactly. The front bumper I saw I didn't like but they change that for the M car so who knows. The front fender flares look epic in camo and the hood power bump is a nice touch, hopefully that makes it to the g87. I'm not betting that it's going to look great, but I'm not sure that it won't.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by W///

I don't really agree with this actually. I personally feel like outside the F87, the F generations are not the absolute best, whether we're talking about interior quality, engine sound, integration of EPS especially on non M models ect ect... The G05 in your garage for example, is such a huge leap forward compared to an F15 IMO.

Looking at the new M3/4, we can expect an improved/sharper steering system, monster engine that can be paired with 6MT that to me sounds better than the S55 from factory, significantly nicer interior. From the reviews, I haven't seen too many people mention the weight affecting the handling of the car. If anything, it seems the car has way more grip and puts down power very well.

Apart from losing DCT, which is not relevant for me, I think the future looks really bright for the G87. I'm really excited, and will probably get one after LCI as it'll most likely be my last pure ICE car.

Ditto. I'm really rooting for it. Pleaseeeee make it so good BMW

[lnsaneM]

I’m in as long as they have the bugs bunny nose like the new M3/M4s

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by akkando

I don't think we really know what the new 2 series looks like exactly. The front bumper I saw I didn't like but they change that for the M car so who knows.

The following leaked G42 spy pictures were no renders: see here, here and here.

Personally I'm still not convinced by the headlights swoop design.

Originally Posted by lnsaneM

I’m in as long as they have the bugs bunny nose like the new M3/M4s

The G42 2er and G87 M2 are not getting the G80 M3 - G82 M4 grille design.

G42 2er front bumper:


Try to imagine the pictures below without the sturdy/bulky plastic add-on camo. Also note the V-shaped LIDAR at the lower central part (LIght Detection And Ranging of Laser Imaging Detection And Ranging).

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Personally I'm still not convinced by the headlights swoop design.

Yeah the headlight design seems weak, and that won't change for g87.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by akkando

Yeah the headlight design seems weak, and that won't change for g87.

Correct. The surrounding plastic bumper will be meatier on the G87 M2, but the headlight unit itself will be the same, unfortunately.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Mo Reviews

Agreed. But I think both the headlights as well as the taillights are actually quite awful. Long live the last good looking BMW!!

I have no problems with the way the car looks so far, but then again how can we properly judge a car with a few blurry pictures and/or cars with camo? If there is one thing I've learned, it's that you really need to see the cars in the flesh before making a final decision.

Regardless, a sharper handling, better sounding, potentially last fully ICE BMW M (with a 6MT) is far more important to me. I say long live that car.

[JustChris]

CAR magazine looks to be running a bit on and iM2 variant.

Not sure if this is click bait etc and not seen the article just yet.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Mo Reviews

The latest iterations of the M3/4 lay testament to the brand's new design language. If you really need to see a car in person to determine whether or not it looks good, then that's the issue therein itself. Good looking cars look good, period. No obtuse angles or special camera trickery required.

It's no secret that even BMW's marketing department has struggled to advertise the G8X M3/4, choosing to feature most pictures from the rear. 🤦🏽

If that's your cup of tea however, be my guest, lap up whatever BMW gives the Asian market.

The new M3/4 is exactly what I'm talking about. Like most, I was completely put off by the grainy pictures of the bumpers sitting on the floor and spy shots. Did I change my mind completely when I saw in person? Not 100% no, but at least some things made far more sense in person than in photos. The car has to be the least photogenic I can think of. Would I pull the trigger on an M3? Probably not, because if I'm spending that kind of money on a car, I better be in love with it like I was with the E46/E92 M3. But if push came to shove and I absolutely needed a 4 door, then yes, I'd consider it, because there's nothing out there that would check all the boxes for me (i.e a 6MT for example).

If you want to rule out a car that is over 1 year from release before seeing it in person, yet alone driving it, you be my guest.

[deneed4spd]

The iM2 in car magazine mentions a 1100 hp iM2 for their 50th bday. 0-60 in 2-2.5 secs. Did the ring in the same time as a porsche taycan turbo s. Im sure it will be really cheap!

[Moflow]

Originally Posted by W///

Apart from losing DCT, which is not relevant for me...

I'd argue it's relevant to us M/T fans as well. BMW lowered the redline of the S58 relative to the S55, and i'd wager its because the engine is designed to be mated to a torque converter instead of DCT boxes. So, kinda a bummer for everyone so that BMW can use the ZF8.

I'm sure the S58 is still a great engine regardless, this might fall under the realm of "nit picking" but ultimately, I like revs when it comes to sporty cars.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Moflow

I'd argue it's relevant to us M/T fans as well. BMW lowered the redline of the S58 relative to the S55, and i'd wager its because the engine is designed to be mated to a torque converter instead of DCT boxes. So, kinda a bummer for everyone so that BMW can use the ZF8.

I'm sure the S58 is still a great engine regardless, this might fall under the realm of "nit picking" but ultimately, I like revs when it comes to sporty cars.

That's a great point.

[skiparock]

Be honest, an s58 in a smaller and lighter car with a stick can look like a pile of Pooh, you'll buy it and smile

[medphysdave]

Shaping up nicely. CS roof standard, 50/50 weight

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/u...on-159858.html

[akkando]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Shaping up nicely. CS roof standard, 50/50 weight

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/u...on-159858.html

I hope the detuned engine makes more power approaching redline instead of just flattening out for over 2000 rpm like the m2c.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Shaping up nicely. CS roof standard, 50/50 weight

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/u...on-159858.html

Oh snap that's sounds damn good

It better look pretty damn good too

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Shaping up nicely. CS roof standard, 50/50 weight

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/u...on-159858.html

Already saving my money

[W///]

Originally Posted by Moflow

I'd argue it's relevant to us M/T fans as well. BMW lowered the redline of the S58 relative to the S55, and i'd wager its because the engine is designed to be mated to a torque converter instead of DCT boxes. So, kinda a bummer for everyone so that BMW can use the ZF8.

I'm sure the S58 is still a great engine regardless, this might fall under the realm of "nit picking" but ultimately, I like revs when it comes to sporty cars.

While ultimately, the redline might not be as high as the S55, there's more reason to rev out an S58 than an S55, so it's a fair trade off IMO. For me personally, this is not what any M2 will be all about, whether F87/G87. I never plan on selling the S54 or S65 in the garage.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Shaping up nicely. CS roof standard, 50/50 weight

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/u...on-159858.html

I hope that's an unfounded rumor because there is apparently a glaring defect with the (M2) CS roof in particular.


BMW M2 CS CFRP roof weave issues: "Garching, we have a problem" ? https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1765570

Doesn't matter to me anyways, as I'm going to certainly opt for a moonroof, which obviously relinquishes any carbon fiber top but just saying..

[SW19]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Shaping up nicely. CS roof standard, 50/50 weight

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/u...on-159858.html

The 50:50 weight distribution is great news.The info about the G87 being based on a shortened platform based on the M4 is probably wrong.

lemetier aleady confirmed in an earlier post that the G87 chassis is based on the Z4/Supra with an added section from the 8 series coupe.

Originally Posted by lemetier

It's chassis basis is the Sports Car variant (Z4/Supra) of Longitudinal CLAR (CLuster ARchitecture), with an added section from the 35up variant found in the 8er coupe to extend the wheelbase slightly and accommodate 2nd row seating.