[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

Its like when people say the comp sounds like shit, I dgaf, it does not bother me a single bit

Originally Posted by DanG

I am use to the S55 sound and it doesn’t bother me either.

I consider anyone that feels this way to be lucky, since the S55/Comp is without question an upgraded OG, just like the CS is an upgraded Comp.

I'm glad that BMW gave us choices, but I'm sad that it literally breeds confirmation bias and has divided the community so.

[ninjagaiden]

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

I do find it interesting that people love the rasp of an e46 but hate the rasp of the S55.

the e46 M rasp was fairly universally hated when the car was in production imo.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by ninjagaiden

the e46 M rasp was fairly universally hated when the car was in production imo.

I remember this, and agree. I also dislike it to this day.

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by ninjagaiden

the e46 M rasp was fairly universally hated when the car was in production imo.

I had 2 E46 M3's and it hated it. I had a mid pipe that "fixed" the rasp, and it was much better.

My set up now with the AA res EL mid makes the S55 sound much better. The resonated version is the way to go for the S55. IMO...

[MooMooM2]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

I consider anyone that feels this way to be lucky, since the S55/Comp is without question an upgraded OG, just like the CS is an upgraded Comp.

I'm glad that BMW gave us choices, but I'm sad that it literally breeds confirmation bias and has divided the community so.

but isn't it silly that is dividing people? its just a car and all the versions are excellent. I could see if there was an inferior version but there really isn't. The OG is inferior on the track but the S55 does not sound as good and the CS is too expensive so they all kind of equal each other in the end.

I personally would be happy with any of the versions.

[MooMooM2]

Originally Posted by ninjagaiden

the e46 M rasp was fairly universally hated when the car was in production imo.

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

I remember this, and agree. I also dislike it to this day.

for sure but now no one talks about it anymore, E46 is praised universally now pretty much but every time I hear one the sound is metallic, it really reminds me of the S55 in ways but the difference is how people see it, e46 incredible, s55 vacuum cleaner.

I personally don't mind either and would love to have an E46 to add to the m2


And we can all agree though that nothing touches the E90

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

but isn't it silly that is dividing people?

I don't think so, I think it's somewhat expected because enthusiasts on message boards (not the lurkers) are passionate, so some ribbing is always going to be present. I do think a lot of it would go away if the N55 just had an S designation. People would still be talking about the classic front end, sound and ability to run 18" wheels of the OG, and the seats, M buttons, mirrors, bespoke front end, and superior track prowess and power of the Comp, but I don't think it would be as heated.

The thing that really saves the OG in this regard, other than the fact that BMW says it's an M-Car, is the 1M, which is one of the most desired M-Cars ever, yet it doesn't carry an S code.

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

And we can all agree though that nothing touches the E90

Without question.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

for sure but now no one talks about it anymore, E46 is praised universally now pretty much but every time I hear one the sound is metallic, it really reminds me of the S55 in ways but the difference is how people see it, e46 incredible, s55 vacuum cleaner.

I personally don't mind either and would love to have an E46 to add to the m2


And we can all agree though that nothing touches the E90

E46 induction noise is amazing, exhaust is pretty bad even to this day tbh - like I wouldn't say it sounds any better than stock S55.

E90 got both induction and exhaust right.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

E46 induction noise is amazing, exhaust is pretty bad even to this day tbh - like I wouldn't say it sounds any better than stock S55.

E90 got both induction and exhaust right.

Great way of explaining the E46
It’s so loud mostly what you hear is it’s 6 TB’s screaming with joy 🤩

[chris719]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

E46 induction noise is amazing, exhaust is pretty bad even to this day tbh - like I wouldn't say it sounds any better than stock S55.

E90 got both induction and exhaust right.

The S54 exhaust sounds way better in the Z4M than in the E46 M3. Still metallic but nicer. I agree that the induction noise is excellent.

The problem for me isn't the rasp on S55, it's the harmonic content of the sound. It sounds "agricultural" or a bit like a 2 stroke even if you remove the rasp. I find the induction noise of S55 to be pretty decent, though the problem is you can barely hear it with the amount of insulation the cars have.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by chris719

The S54 exhaust sounds way better in the Z4M than in the E46 M3. Still metallic but nicer. I agree that the induction noise is excellent.

The problem for me isn't the rasp on S55, it's the harmonic content of the sound. It sounds "agricultural" or a bit like a 2 stroke even if you remove the rasp. I find the induction noise of S55 to be pretty decent, though the problem is you can barely hear it with the amount of insulation the cars have.

Agree here - S55 is very flat in its UEL configuration although I would say S54 is very similar too as they share the same fundamental exhaust routing out of the headers/turbos. EL fixes S55 and gives it proper range but honestly it should have come from factory with a more EL system, then there would be significantly less complaints on sound. S55 induction noise, which is pretty decent in itself, has nothing on S54 with those ITBs. You can barely hear S54 exhaust over the ITBs from the drivers seat

[hson10]

As with all things on the internet, I think you should take what people say with a grain of salt. We all strive for acceptance but ultimately if you like the car, it doesn't matter whether it's a "real M car" or not!

Helps me sleep better at night knowing that I enjoy tracking my OG just as much as the next guy in an M2C and the guy in an M sport 335i at the same track day

Drive whatever you have, enjoy it, and if you feel it's not enough then save and upgrade!

[F87source]

Originally Posted by hson10

As with all things on the internet, I think you should take what people say with a grain of salt. We all strive for acceptance but ultimately if you like the car, it doesn't matter whether it's a "real M car" or not!

Helps me sleep better at night knowing that I enjoy tracking my OG just as much as the next guy in an M2C and the guy in an M sport 335i at the same track day

Drive whatever you have, enjoy it, and if you feel it's not enough then save and upgrade!

For me I just don't really care what people think about anything. I bought the car for myself and my own pleasure, not for the pleasure of others. So I do what I want to it, and enjoy it my own way. I really don't care what others think lol.

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by chris719

The S54 exhaust sounds way better in the Z4M than in the E46 M3. Still metallic but nicer. I agree that the induction noise is excellent.

The problem for me isn't the rasp on S55, it's the harmonic content of the sound. It sounds "agricultural" or a bit like a 2 stroke even if you remove the rasp. I find the induction noise of S55 to be pretty decent, though the problem is you can barely hear it with the amount of insulation the cars have.

Agreed on the Z4M, had a 2006 and loved the sound overall.

Agreed again on the S55, sounds better from the outside. I like it best at WOP.

My wife's 2018 M2 has a Dinan exhaust (res delete I believe) and it sounds really good to me (better than my M2C).

Of course nothing compares the the R8 V10 at 8500rpm...lol

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by F87source

For me I just don't really care what people think about anything. I bought the car for myself and my own pleasure, not for the pleasure of others. So I do what I want to it, and enjoy it my own way. I really don't care what others think lol.

My approach as well.

[tx_M2]

I keep reading this thread and it just irritates me. I have my 2018 M2 and dig it. I don't give 2 $hits if you got a comp or CS. Congrats if you do. Do I own a real M car? Opinions vary. I enjoy what I have and if it's not a M car, I really don't care. I'm enjoying what I have. Cheers. If you really want to step up, you should have a M5 cs. Lol

[ddnmkun]

Originally Posted by DanG

I am really getting tired of hearing from the M2C crowd that my M2 is not a real M car. Some even call it an “M2-Lite”.

Let us be real. The M2 always was a real M car and considered by many as the best M car available from 2016-2018. It even made Car and Drivers top 10.

Let’s stop this OG M2 bashing.

Imagine when that happen in our local CCA M car day event lol. I make sure my OG park front and center in the rows of M2!

[DanG]

Originally Posted by ddnmkun

Imagine when that happen in our local CCA M car day event lol. I make sure my OG park front and center in the rows of M2!

Sorry that happened to you. I have only experienced this on this board.

I did have a local X5M owner question why my M2 didn’t have an 8 cylinder engine like his.

[///M TOWN]

I’d be happy if our local BMW CCA club had a row of M2’s or even M cars

Mostly series cars show up

And only a handful of M’s

[DanG]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I’d be happy if our local BMW CCA club had a row of M2’s or even M cars

Mostly series cars show up

And only a handful of M’s

He was talking about M Car Days at Groit’s. You were there with several other M2s including mine.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by DanG

He was talking about M Car Days at Groit’s. You were there with several other M2s including mine.

Gotcha

Yes indeed I was

Thanks for the clarification

[Steelguin]

VIN start with WBS? If so its an M car.