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      02-13-2020, 02:47 AM   #45
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I don't even own an M2. But a statement like it's not fun and no one would ever choose it because it's 1 second slower to 60 is completely absurd and demonstrates detachment from reality.
Those are your words, not mine. I never said the M2 was boring because it was slower. You were the one who said anything above the M4 is a boat.....which is the most ridiculous statement in this whole thread.

I want a car that's supercar fast as soon as I hit the gas (that handles like it's on rails). Sorry, to me (and 98% of the population)....a car with 600 HP and 2.8 0-60 time is going to be much more fun than a car that is significantly slower....even if it's a manual. The M5 is the standard of the sports sedan and always has been. It has way more heritage than a damn 2 series.
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Those are your words, not mine. I never said the M2 was boring because it was slower. You were the one who said anything above the M4 is a boat.....which is the most ridiculous statement in this whole thread.

I want a car that's supercar fast as soon as I hit the gas (that handles like it's on rails). Sorry, to me (and 98% of the population)....a car with 600 HP and 2.8 0-60 time is going to be much more fun than a car that is significantly slower....even if it's a manual. The M5 is the standard of the sports sedan and always has been. It has way more heritage than a damn 2 series.
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You guys crack me up. M2 more fun to drive? It's a second slower in the 0-60. Be real.

You should just buy a Tesla if that's what you care about. They will walk you in real life and have much more instantaneous response than a turbo ICE.

Heritage. lol

I'm done, good day sir.
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You guys crack me up. M2 more fun to drive? It's a second slower in the 0-60. Be real.
My middle of the range, diesel, auto, SUV, X3 has the same 0-60 time as an open-gated manual, V8, Ferrari 348. I know which I'd rather take up an Alpine pass.
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      02-13-2020, 04:42 AM   #48
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Those are your words, not mine. I never said the M2 was boring because it was slower. You were the one who said anything above the M4 is a boat.....which is the most ridiculous statement in this whole thread.

I want a car that's supercar fast as soon as I hit the gas (that handles like it's on rails). Sorry, to me (and 98% of the population)....a car with 600 HP and 2.8 0-60 time is going to be much more fun than a car that is significantly slower....even if it's a manual. The M5 is the standard of the sports sedan and always has been. It has way more heritage than a damn 2 series.
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You guys crack me up. M2 more fun to drive? It's a second slower in the 0-60. Be real.

You should just buy a Tesla if that's what you care about. They will walk you in real life and have much more instantaneous response than a turbo ICE.

Heritage. lol

I'm done, good day sir.
Yep, good day, enjoy your entry level "sports car". Go try telling a 911 owner about your sports car and see what they say. 😆
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Yep, good day, enjoy your entry level "sports car". Go try telling a 911 owner about your sports car and see what they say. 😆
Wow, you really are an out of touch elitist. Enjoy your 5 series.
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Be serious......not one of you would take the M2 if price and size were of no regard.
Regarding size, there are plenty who want a smaller more tossable car and not a large, heavy car - regardless of the luxury they're giving up.
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I don't even own an M2. But a statement like it's not fun and no one would ever choose it because it's 1 second slower to 60 is completely absurd and demonstrates detachment from reality.
Those are your words, not mine. I never said the M2 was boring because it was slower. You were the one who said anything above the M4 is a boat.....which is the most ridiculous statement in this whole thread.

I want a car that's supercar fast as soon as I hit the gas (that handles like it's on rails). Sorry, to me (and 98% of the population)....a car with 600 HP and 2.8 0-60 time is going to be much more fun than a car that is significantly slower....even if it's a manual. The M5 is the standard of the sports sedan and always has been. It has way more heritage than a damn 2 series.
Then get what you want and move on. Why try so hard to convince others who clearly don't share your opinion. Who cares what they like or buy. It's as if you're actually trying to validate your choice to yourself, or just simply troll the m2 crowd.

If you really do feel the need to convince others that the 8 series is better, you'd get further by speaking about your experience(s) with the car, and what impresses you about it. It would be even better if you compare that with any experience you have with the m2, and why it didn't meet your expectations. Regardless, you'd contribute much more with an informative, interesting post instead of crapping on the m2.

It's like when candidates running for public office spend all of their energy telling us what not to like about their opposition, but never get around to telling us what they are about, or want to do. They have no agenda except to drag someone else through the mud. Then they wonder why no one is interested.
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Be serious......not one of you would take the M2 if price and size were of no regard.
Regarding size, there are plenty who want a smaller more tossable car and not a large, heavy car - regardless of the luxury they're giving up.
I owned most ///M cars including F90 M5 and last month I picked M2C MT

I have to say M5 is brutally fast and handles great for the size but the M2 is just phenomenal car.

Beautifully balanced and the MT is cherry on the cake
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Regarding size, there are plenty who want a smaller more tossable car and not a large, heavy car - regardless of the luxury they're giving up.
You guys, don't feed them. Let them die of neglect.
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Winner = M2 + M8 = M10/2 = M5

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At first you treat the curbs like bumpers in bowling.. it's so bad in fact rental car companies circle rash with yellow paint before they rent them out to international's and charge people for wheels and damaged tires. You get used to it thought eventually just hope it's before you get involved in a head on..
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I'll stick with my choices. Best of both worlds, both with usable back seats.

One is a MT, one is an AT, that is way better then the DCT my past M4ZCP... (start the flame war).... I'll let you guess which is which.
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Um, yeah, spot on

You are right, I'm sure the M2 is an example of a real sports car (AKA one of those models BMW came out with a few years ago when they started watering down the M name).
The M2 isn't a full-on sports car, but it's a hell of a lot closer than an M5 lol. I drove a couple laps in an M5C on track last year right after driving an M4 ZCP and the mass of the M5 is quite noticeable as is the numb feeling in comparison. The M2 feels even better than the M4. No one is arguing which is faster. If you don't understand feel then please just stick to your executive sedans. I'm sure your 4500lb AWD automatic transmission sedan is more of an M car than an M2, lol. How clueless can one be?

The M2/M3/M4 are the heaviest BMWs I would ever consider buying.
Great, you drove a M5 for basically 5 minutes and know it all.

WTF is the point of mentioning how heavy something is? Especially when it's faster. 0-60, 0-100.....what does it matter? It's a second minimum slower then these big boats. Then WTF are you paying $60k for? A "sports car" that really isn't that fast....let alone what other cars you could get for $60k. If you are going to pay $60k for an extra level M car, at least get one that competes with the competition.

Stop acting like a friggin M2 is BMW's crown jewel. Oh, wait, you drove a couple laps in a M5 once.
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You guys crack me up. M2 more fun to drive? It's a second slower in the 0-60. Be real.
I hope your being sarcastic...
You're missing his point... it's about feel, and fun. M2C has it all over the M5 in those categories. You like the M5, good for you, but it doesn't have the feel, it's a boat, great if you put lots of highway miles on it. Pretty much what the guys both said in the video. I've driven M3's, M4's and M5's, and IMHO, nowhere near as much fun as my M2C.
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The real insight kicks in a few mins from the end. Prepare for minds to be blown:-

- M8 more of a GT car
- M2 more fun weekend car
- MXdrive provides stability and confidence in the wet
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Would get 850 GC instead, fast, practical ish never tracked in my life... and even if I do might as well get a light slow ish project car in manual so I don't get killed...
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I'll stick with my choices. Best of both worlds, both with usable back seats.

One is a MT, one is an AT, that is way better then the DCT my past M4ZCP... (start the flame war).... I'll let you guess which is which.
A canoe and a boat living side-by-side! There can be peace and harmony!

(Im super jealous your ride is an A10 btw, I think that wins on fun and feel)
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Would get 850 GC instead, fast, practical ish never tracked in my life... and even if I do might as well get a light slow ish project car in manual so I don't get killed...
An M8 Comp GC... OOOOOO buddy.

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I'll stick with my choices. Best of both worlds, both with usable back seats.

One is a MT, one is an AT, that is way better then the DCT my past M4ZCP... (start the flame war).... I'll let you guess which is which.
A canoe and a boat living side-by-side! There can be peace and harmony!

(Im super jealous your ride is an A10 btw, I think that wins on fun and feel)
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M2C for sure, although I am biased but nothing can beat a small and nimble RWD sports car.

M8 is cool and all, but, its pricing is its downfall, that's Porsche 911, AMG GT, etc. money, or even spring a little extra for an R8, the field is just too competitive around the $150k price point.
Agreed!
Here in Canada there's barely a $35k price difference between the M8C and the R8.. hands down all day long I'd take the R8 if I'm into a car for $200k +
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Um, yeah, spot on

You are right, I'm sure the M2 is an example of a real sports car (AKA one of those models BMW came out with a few years ago when they started watering down the M name).
The M2 isn't a full-on sports car, but it's a hell of a lot closer than an M5 lol. I drove a couple laps in an M5C on track last year right after driving an M4 ZCP and the mass of the M5 is quite noticeable as is the numb feeling in comparison. The M2 feels even better than the M4. No one is arguing which is faster. If you don't understand feel then please just stick to your executive sedans. I'm sure your 4500lb AWD automatic transmission sedan is more of an M car than an M2, lol. How clueless can one be?

The M2/M3/M4 are the heaviest BMWs I would ever consider buying.
M2C is as pure as you can get these days. It's an amazing ride. Steering can still improve though.
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M2 seems tiny to me. M5/8 too large. M3/4 Juuust right. There's a chair for every ass.
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