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      12-14-2018, 01:42 AM   #45
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?? How so??

If it did have a tune then the gap would be much smaller if it was to run in stock form.

Or do you currently have one on order and are about to lose 30k?

Idk people...if I lost that much on a car I probably wouldn't like it just for that sour fact lol
I have an M2c on order, plan to trade in my 2017 but not sure it’s worth it now ... especially considering I would have to add big dollars to fix the horrible muffler and ok wheels . might just wait for next next generation… Maybe one with an S58

I am still crazy happy with my m2 ...just obsessed with the sunset orange -that’s all
You are not sure if it's worth it because of a drag race? Muffler only takes $10 and 30min to disappear. You can sell 788M wheels more than what 437Ms are going for if you wanna swap them. However, if you are that happy with your OG M2 and don't really see any advantage of having M2C over yours (aside from the color) then don't do it IMO. The financial hit is only worth it if you truly love the new model and know 100% that it'll make you happier. Why don't you get your M2 wrapped in some color close to Sunset Orange if that's the only thing that attracts you about M2C?
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You are not sure if it's worth it because of a drag race? Muffler only takes $10 and 30min to disappear. You can sell 788M wheels more than what 437Ms are going for if you wanna swap them. However, if you are that happy with your OG M2 and don't really see any advantage of having M2C over yours (aside from the color) then don't do it IMO. The financial hit is only worth it if you truly love the new model and know 100% that it'll make you happier. Why don't you get your M2 wrapped in some color close to Sunset Orange if that's the only thing that attracts you about M2C?
Hmm ....I agree.

Painting the muffler is not a good solution for me tho … It’s like painting your bald spot 😂
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You are not sure if it's worth it because of a drag race? Muffler only takes $10 and 30min to disappear. You can sell 788M wheels more than what 437Ms are going for if you wanna swap them. However, if you are that happy with your OG M2 and don't really see any advantage of having M2C over yours (aside from the color) then don't do it IMO. The financial hit is only worth it if you truly love the new model and know 100% that it'll make you happier. Why don't you get your M2 wrapped in some color close to Sunset Orange if that's the only thing that attracts you about M2C?
Hmm ....I agree.

Painting the muffler is not a good solution for me tho … It’s like painting your bald spot 😂
Totally agree! It's a temporary solution for me until I get an exhaust. Even though I literally don't notice it anymore either in person or in the pics, I still know it's there and it has to go. Fortunately there are already 4-5 options available. For example, AFE just released their single midpipe catback for around $2.5K. If you think it's still too much, your local muffler shop can easily do a muffler delete for couple hundred bucks. But I still think wrapping your M2 would be a cheaper and better option for you
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Hmm ....I agree.

Painting the muffler is not a good solution for me tho … It’s like painting your bald spot ��


That's why I shaved my head bold 10 years ago. My wife thinks I'm sexy lol.

And that's why I'm probably getting the Remus axle back oncoming spring.

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I have an M2c on order, plan to trade in my 2017 but not sure it’s worth it now ... especially considering I would have to add big dollars to fix the horrible muffler and ok wheels . might just wait for next next generation… Maybe one with an S58

I am still crazy happy with my m2 ...just obsessed with the sunset orange -that’s all
Then just don't do it.

The way the M2C drove away from M2 OG is just like the M3 F80 Comp(friend of mine) drove away from me in the OG M2.
And just like previous model E63 Estate with 500BHP vs my OG M2 stock.

So what would you expect?

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Dampness factor.

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Yeah tons of cars will beat it on the street in the price range especially straight line, it's the track that cars in the same price range will have a harder time, camaro and a few others can do it.
The track conditions favour the the mid engine cars even more than normal, just saying...
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      12-14-2018, 04:29 AM   #51
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The comp isnt standard watch the previous video from joe achilles which contains that very car and he mentions a remap or tuning box. So not apples to apples.
No such video exists...a tuned M140i was racing with an M2C in one of his video...that’s all

If the M2C was tuned the gap would be much much wider!
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The track conditions favour the the mid engine cars even more than normal, just saying...
But that same mid engined 4C did an 8:05 on the Nordschleife in the hands of Sport Auto testdriver C. Gebhardt compared to 7:52 for the M2 Comp.

So that yellow 4C has to have something which isn'tn stock imho.

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No such video exists...a tuned M140i was racing with an M2C in one of his video...that’s all
Exactly and they were both equally fast irl traffic, or not much difference. But in this Drag race video the M2C runs away from OG M2 after 60mph/100mph(?) like the way it should with about +40/50HP and + 100Nm real life torque.

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M2C is running bilstein Clubsport coilovers, eventuri intakes and some form of tuning box.

Stock M2C does 100-200kph in 9.8-10s. Regular
M2 in 10.5s, the difference with them both stock isn’t ‘that’ big. The difference comes when you compare them tuned.
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As a 4C owner, as well as an M2 owner I was glad to see the 4C win, but...if I had a M2C I don't think I would feel the same way, might even be pissed.
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As a 4C owner, as well as an M2 owner I was glad to see the 4C win, but...if I had a M2C I don't think I would feel the same way, might even be pissed.
I feel pissed, definitely!







Because there was no bloody Civic Type R in that vid!


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As a 4C owner, as well as an M2 owner I was glad to see the 4C win, but...if I had a M2C I don't think I would feel the same way, might even be pissed.
Glad you own the 4C, I love how it looks

That 4C in the drag race is definitely tuned.

See the video below when it barely beats the 718 Cayman S even with a decent head start

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It's a pity that such a light sportscar like 4C is very good at outrunning other cars in dragraces but not so keen on laptimes.

Hockenheim Short.
4C. 1:14.00
M2 1:12.2/1:12.5
M2C 1:12.2

Nords:
4C 8:05
M2 8:01
M2C 7:52

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      12-14-2018, 06:27 AM   #60
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M2C is running bilstein Clubsport coilovers, eventuri intakes and some form of tuning box.

Stock M2C does 100-200kph in 9.8-10s. Regular
M2 in 10.5s, the difference with them both stock isn’t ‘that’ big. The difference comes when you compare them tuned.
Where did you get this info?

The specification on the M2C (owned by MMR Performance) was not listed on their website or Instagram or facebook. The only mod they mentioned was the Bilstein suspension.

I also didn't see any piggyback module in their product line up so what type of tuning box module are you referring to?
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It's unfortunate that the 4C doesn't get more love. I saw one in red the other day and it was stunning, like a mini Ferrari.

It's just such a niche car within a niche segment. The Boxster/Cayman already don't sell much and they are livable on a daily basis, the 4C seems like a punishing car to own that's really just relegated to weekend/track use.
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Where did you get this info?

The specification on the M2C (owned by MMR Performance) was not listed on their website or Instagram or facebook. The only mod they mentioned was the Bilstein suspension.

I also didn't see any piggyback module in their product line up so what type of tuning box module are you referring to?
The info was from one of the M2 Facebook pages. This car was featured in an Evolve YouTube video testing out eventuri intakes. The time lines might be crossed from when these videos and mods were done.

Drag races are never really a great way to show case cars, too many variables. Rolling runs take away most of these variables. Stock vs stock there’s going to be a few car lengths over 100-200kph. Tuned it’s going to turn into bus lengths.
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The info was from one of the M2 Facebook pages. This car was featured in an Evolve YouTube video testing out eventuri intakes. The time lines might be crossed from when these videos and mods were done.

Drag races are never really a great way to show case cars, too many variables. Rolling runs take away most of these variables. Stock vs stock there’s going to be a few car lengths over 100-200kph. Tuned it’s going to turn into bus lengths.
The car might be on one of the M2 facebook pages but there is nothing I can find about the piggyback tune!

The gap between the M2C and the M2 is consistence that of the M4 vs M2 so I believe at the time of the drag the DME was running on stock map. If it was tuned the gap would be like half the runway.
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The car might be on one of the M2 facebook pages but there is nothing I can find about the piggyback tune!

The gap between the M2C and the M2 is consistence that of the M4 vs M2 so I believe at the time of the drag the DME was running on stock map. If it was tuned the gap would be like half the runway.
Indeed! And the tuned M2C would have taken off before the end of the runway, headed towards the sky, reached relativistic speed, and become interstellar
With a RWD 2-series tuned to >500HP and >700Nm, which is easy with the S55, you'll have to use much larger wheels and tires than the ones of the M2/M2C if you really want to reach supercar accelerations. Else you'll just make your tires reseller a very happy man
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How does the 6 speed manual M2 get a better launch than the two DCT M2's that have launch control? We have seen it published so many times that we all know the DCT cars should have the edge off the line through the 1/4 mile. There's simply no way the DC2 OG M2 should be that much slower than the 6-speed manual version of the same car. The M2C is modded? This comparison is about as useful and informative as those YouTube video's of kids street racing from a roll.

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The M2C is faster, big surprise there..

Seriously, it is, you can actually see the extra power propelling the car forward..

But take into consideration it's manual vs a DCT, for what that's worth..

Great test video, confirms that there are very few street vehicles that could keep up with the M2C..
It lost to an Alfa 4C. There are plenty of street cars that can keep up. Like every single new Mustang GT and Camaro SS. Just sayin.
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The M2C is faster, big surprise there..

Seriously, it is, you can actually see the extra power propelling the car forward..

But take into consideration it's manual vs a DCT, for what that's worth..

Great test video, confirms that there are very few street vehicles that could keep up with the M2C..
It lost to an Alfa 4C. There are plenty of street cars that can keep up. Like every single new Mustang GT and Camaro SS. Just sayin.
The 0 to 60 war ended a long time ago.

In the sport bike world, the top speed war ended when they limited sport bikes to a 186.

Point being; 0 to 60 times is no longer the main reason to buy a car.

If your chasing 0 to 60 buy a Tesla or Focus RS or something like that.


The M2 is great car from what I've read.
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