[mcgarnigle]

FL5 in M2C square fitments would be super!

[Old Geezer]

Originally Posted by Proctor750

What do you think the maximum square setup would be M2C?

I think the problem is as much height as it is width. The base car can run more tire (i.e. wider) since 18s are shorter. The anecdotal evidence suggests that a 265/35-19 in front is near the maximum one can run. Some people report rubbing; others do not. And that’s on stock suspension; lowering would make the problem worse. I’m not sure people who might otherwise prefer a square setup would consider a 265 enough tire in the back. A 30-series 19” tire might provide some options, but nobody makes a 30-series 19 in a 200tw.

[Proctor750]

Originally Posted by Old Geezer

I think the problem is as much height as it is width. The base car can run more tire (i.e. wider) since 18s are shorter. The anecdotal evidence suggests that a 265/35-19 in front is near the maximum one can run. Some people report rubbing; others do not. And that’s on stock suspension; lowering would make the problem worse. I’m not sure people who might otherwise prefer a square setup would consider a 265 enough tire in the back. A 30-series 19” tire might provide some options, but nobody makes a 30-series 19 in a 200tw.

Makes sense. Perhaps staggered will be unavoidable especially with a CS+ tune on track.
Wonder what the max rear would be then? It looks like Im stuck with the 788s until apex and others develop some good 19" options. Im not one to baloon tires that are too wide for the wheel.
Really dont want to have to go aftermarket bbk just to fit 18s but maybe thats the only alternative.

[NY135ivishnu]

Pm with pricing please.

[ashtaron14]

For M2C, if we want wheels that can clear the brakes we can technically run SM-10 19x9 ET30, 18x10 ET33 ? Do you think 255/35/19 and 275/35/18 tires would clear stock suspension?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by ashtaron14

For M2C, if we want wheels that can clear the brakes we can technically run SM-10 19x9 ET30, 18x10 ET33 ? Do you think 255/35/19 and 275/35/18 tires would clear stock suspension?

Although we haven't tested it yet, this setup should clear the brakes without issue, and should be a direct fit with no modifications required. The 255/35 fronts may need a touch of negative camber for fender clearance, while 245/35 should clear with stock camber.

--Dylan

[ashtaron14]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

Indeed there are. It's preliminary at the moment, but we'd love to mirror our 18" sizes in the 19" diameter: 19x9.5" ET28 and 19x10.5" ET40. We'll have a more solid update early to mid next year.

We don't have any real-world 10" SM-10 photos, but here are some 19" ARC-8s:

Hope this helps!

--Dylan

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

These are our 19x9" ET28 front and 19x9.5" ET33 wheels. This setup would need 5mm front spacers to clear the suspension. Although the ARC-8 is one of our more classic designs, it does look pretty at home on the M2.

--Dylan

So a 19x9.5 ET28 SM-10 would clear the front suspension but 19x9 ET28 ARC-8 would need a 5mm spacer? Why is that?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by ashtaron14

So a 19x9.5 ET28 SM-10 would clear the front suspension but 19x9 ET28 ARC-8 would need a 5mm spacer? Why is that?

Great question, and my apologies for the incorrect wording. The spacer is required for caliper-to-spoke clearance, not for suspension clearance. The spokes on the ARC-8 are a bit deeper than our other designs, making spacers necessary on certain applications where our other designs clear just fine.

--Dylan

[NY135ivishnu]

Pm with pricing please

[randyt]

Still planning on 19" FL-5's?

[Josh_G]

Second that! i would love a set of 19" FL-5 to go on my M2C

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by randyt

Still planning on 19" FL-5's?

Originally Posted by Josh_G

Second that! i would love a set of 19" FL-5 to go on my M2C

While 19" FL-5 production has not been planned just yet, we might consider a production later in the year.

There is nothing set in stone at this time. We will keep the community updated if anything changes!

- Max

[Cycle Pilot]

Count me in for a 19" FL-5 on my M2C.

[mcgarnigle]

Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot

Count me in for a 19" FL-5 on my M2C.

Same.

I think it suits the f87 more than the sm10

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot

Count me in for a 19" FL-5 on my M2C.

Originally Posted by mcgarnigle

Same.

I think it suits the f87 more than the sm10

Unfortunately, we do not have any immediate plans for a 19" FL-5. We do have some 19" EC-7 fitments in the works, specifically for the M2 Competition. Here are a few fitments we offer now that will work quite well:

SM-10 ONLY:

Front: 19x9" ET30 - 245/35-19
Rear: 19x11" ET44 - 295/30-19

• Depending on ride height and tire brand, rear negative camber might be required.

Front: 19x9.5" ET22 - 265/30-19
Rear: 19x11" ET44 - 295/30-19

• Negative camber required up front.
• Depending on ride height and tire brand, rear negative camber might be required.

SM-10, EC-7 or ARC-8:

Front & Rear: 19x9.5" ET22 - 265/30-19

• Negative camber required up front.

SM-10 & EC-7:

Front: 19x9.5" ET22 - 265/30-19
Rear: 18x11" ET44 - 285/35-18
(See photo below)

• Staggered wheel diameter setup for those looking to run racing slicks.
• Rear 295/35-18 or 305/35-18 tires will require aggressive negative camber and/or rolled/pulled fenders. Fitment ultimately depends on the vehicle ride height, negative camber specs and tire brand as all are not created equal.

ARC-8 ONLY:

Front & Rear: 19x9.5" ET33 - 265/30-19 (see photo below)

• At least a 5mm front spacer required for suspension clearance.

This should shed some light on what our current recommendations are for the M2 Competition!

- Max

[ashtaron14]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

We do have some 19" EC-7 fitments in the works, specifically for the M2 Competition.

- Max

Would there be a staggered 19" EC-7 fitment?

[BigBear2016]

Would Square 19x9.5 245/35 Sm-10 Fit Stock M2 Competition

[Proctor750]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

We do have some 19" EC-7 fitments in the works, specifically for the M2 Competition.


- Max

Would this be the 19x9.5 and 19x10.5 with the offsets discussed earlier?
If so what is ballpark release?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by ashtaron14

Would there be a staggered 19" EC-7 fitment?

That is the plan, we are planning to mirror our 18" fitment, which is 9.5" ET28 and 10.5" ET40.

Originally Posted by BigBear2016

Would Square 19x9.5 245/35 Sm-10 Fit Stock M2 Competition

It would, however the tires would be a bit stretched. We recommend 265/30-19 tires on the 18x9.5" ET22 as well as front and rear negative camber. With 245/35-19 tires, I'd use the 19x9" ET30 SM-10 instead, which will be a direct fit with no modifications required.

Originally Posted by Proctor750

Would this be the 19x9.5 and 19x10.5 with the offsets discussed earlier?
If so what is ballpark release?

Yep, those are the planned sizes. We are shooting to have these available in the first half of this year.

--Dylan

[randyt]

I'm sad to hear no 19" FL-5 for at least the near term but thanks for letting us know not to expect it.

[Bavarienne]

Apex,
I'm looking at the SM-10s in 18x9.5" (primarily track wheels). Does the wheel sit in the same position to the fender with either offset, and only the concavity is different?

Which offset is recommended? I'd be ok using some smallish spacers--would that then require the use of wheel studs?

Want to get in on today's group buy...

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by Bavarienne

Apex,
I'm looking at the SM-10s in 18x9.5" (primarily track wheels). Does the wheel sit in the same position to the fender with either offset, and only the concavity is different?

Which offset is recommended? I'd be ok using some smallish spacers--would that then require the use of wheel studs?

Want to get in on today's group buy...

Thanks for the post! The offset determines where the wheel sits between the fender and the suspension. The concavity is determined by the width and offset.

For a square 18" setup, we recommend the 18x9.5" ET28 FL-5 with 265/35-18 tires. This setup requires slight front negative camber, but is otherwise a direct fit, and was developed specifically for the M2.

--Dylan