03-22-2019, 12:41 PM | #23 |
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Thanks for the write up, sounds like the same receipt as OG M2.
Add camber plates set to -2.75 or 3 Aftermarket track brake pads High temp brake fluid How did the stock pads hold up, did they "melt" to the rotors under heavy abuse? |
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03-25-2019, 03:49 AM | #25 | |
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2) I mean if you are going to regularly track a car, get a dedicated track car. Unless you have GT3 and GT3RS to play around with, I don't see any good compromise on the market where you will enjoy a track focused car on the road. If you track regularly, you would know the maintenance cost of a light vs heavy track car. Ideally, you'll wanna go as light as you can, hence my main track car is an Atom. 3) Do I think it is worth it? I personally don't because it's quite capable on its own to be enjoyed as a track car based on your purpose and track usage. I would just enjoy it and see what you need going forward. If it becomes more serious for you, you will have the answer. Everybody starts somewhere and find their own path of enjoyment in this sport. Enjoy your car in good health. |
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03-25-2019, 03:51 AM | #26 |
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Fade, fade, fade. Didn't see any melting but definitely not confidence inspiring within a 20 minute session.
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03-25-2019, 08:49 AM | #27 |
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Thanks for the info, just changed my config to the standard brakes
Sadly a 2nd car is not something which I can currently afford due to space and time constraint. I guess your right, in 4-5 years I might feel very different about it all! |
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03-25-2019, 11:04 AM | #29 |
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A square wheel set up = front and rear tires of equal width. Benefit being more balanced handling characteristics (less understeer, as wide rear tires can out-grip the fronts with a staggered set up). Also allows for tires to be rotated.
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11-30-2020, 04:08 PM | #31 |
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Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to do an update on the review/comparison between the 1M and M2C after another 2 years. I still have both and have since added an NA E36 M3 race car to the arsenal. As for the 1M, I have not taken it to the track nor driven it much in the past two years. I didn't intent for the 1M to be a garage queen but as the collection got a bit bigger, it was harder to find time to enjoy it. I had the pleasure to drive it for the past week and its as special as ever. The tactile feel is as good as it gets for a street car that can still fit my family. I've already reserved this car for my 7 year old so it's not going anywhere. M2C: I had the pleasure to take an amazing roadtrip from Vancouver down to LA last November while hitting up Thunderhill and Laguna. Slapped on a set of new Cup2 and BM3 and off I went with my neighbor in his heavily modded C5 Z06. The car performed quite well on both tracks but nothing spectacular. I did manage to pass every car on track in my group but I kept it 8/10 as it was still needed to take me all the way back home in this 2 week roadtrip. My biggest takeaway is how well the car did on the entire trip. Looking at my garage, I couldn't have brought a better car for that specific job. To be able to carry me and camping gear (yes we camped as much as we could) for 2 weeks thru the best canyons, 110mph highway cruising, LA traffic, rain, hail, cold, hot, while still being required to kick ass at Thunderhill and Laguna. Not once did it disappoint and was able to do it under the radar with all the creature comforts ie GPS, bluetooth, heated seats, heated steering, driving modes, and memory seat positions. I never really cared for those things before but they matter quite a lot when you have to quickly adjust things on the fly for the circumstance. My neighbor (a hardcore Porsche guy) and I would joke that it's a half price 911 GTS. I did a writeup about my 2 week ED trip with the M2C as well but I can't find where that is anymore. In essence, it was a very similar trip where I hit up the ring for my first time. Having 2 years of ownership, 2 big roadtrips and 4 tracks under its belt, I can confidently give this car my seal of approval. The M2C is really a great car especially for the money. Once again, heat management was excellent and I never once worried about it like I still do with the N54. There's a big list of mods that I would like to do for the M2C but with the way that its being used, I can honestly say that tires, tune and pads is all you need to have a great time. My wife loves it as her daily so unless a Carrera T gets really cheap, I don't think this car can be replaced for what it does. Now since this topic was about track comparisons, I mentioned that I added an E36 M3 to the track fleet. At about 2700lbs, NA built S52 motor, full race setup, pump gas, is by far the best BMW i've driven on track. Its incredibly balanced and the input is almost telepathic. Mind you, I'd want to kill myself after just driving it down a street but on track, it is pure gold. It does a very respectable time for what it is and just spanks both the 1M and M2C with only about 300hp and for under $20k. In summary, the 1M still feels very special and will mostly stay that way forever, the M2C continues to impress but could be easily replaced with M2cs, 911 etc. Neither the 1M and M2C belongs as a "more serious" track car. Ideally 95% street, 5% track. The E36 M3 is my holy grail for BMW track driving. Thanks to everyone that appreciated this thread and looking forward to the next 2 years. Cheers, NKC |
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Literally hit the nail on the head with every point, which is why after 1 track day, I did camber plates, re71R tires, track pads and fluid. To add on to the review, once you have the mods listed above; The only thing I can comment on is that it fixes all of the issues you listed, but creates a new issue of a bit excessive oversteer. Car still feels very controlled but a lot more fun! However if you're after laptimes, I think -3F -2.5R camber would be perfect. |
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12-01-2020, 01:14 PM | #34 |
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second that. m2C is a fun and very capable high performance road car. full out track car....not really. if it weighed less and was a bit more purposeful for track use from the factory, the maybe yes. anything more than 3000 lbs. just involves higher use of track consumables and given the expenses for m2c it's not a cheap proposition. doesn't mean you can't enjoy it once in a while on track for HPDE days. just my opinion.
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That's good to know. I plan on going to a track even in January. Looking forward to the moving this beast around the track and see for myself. I'm only used to driving a S2000 (2800 lb.) and know the power will be intoxicating especially on the straights coming out of turns. Can't wait.
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