[///MPECABL]

Originally Posted by Champ of America

Not to derail this thread, but as a wagon lover, that E63s is the best thing going! When you said it made the CS feel sluggish I was hoping this would be the car you were talking about!

Only things it could have really been is the E63 AMG Wagon or the RS6.

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by ///MPECABL

Only things it could have really been is the E63 AMG Wagon or the RS6.

Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo or Taycan Cross Turismo and GTS Sport Turismo would also be possibilities. E63S wagon is peak fast wagon to me so I'm also happy to see one, especially paired with a CS!

[///MPECABL]

Originally Posted by Champ of America

Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo or Taycan Cross Turismo and GTS Sport Turismo would also be possibilities. E63S wagon is peak fast wagon to me so I'm also happy to see one, especially paired with a CS!

I love them as well. A good buddy of mine has one that we cruise together often.

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by ///MPECABL

I love them as well. A good buddy of mine has one that we cruise together often.

Sick spec and license plate! They look so much better blacked out than with the chrome accents!

[aroundelway]

They all have chrome accents on the back. It’s an oddity of the night package.

We opted for the night package as it makes the car more subtle.

Cadillac made a fast wagon for a bit. The porches mentioned are neat but somehow not wagons while being wagons.

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by aroundelway

They all have chrome accents on the back. It’s an oddity of the night package.

We opted for the night package as it makes the car more subtle.

Cadillac made a fast wagon for a bit. The porches mentioned are neat but somehow not wagons while being wagons.

Agreed, they're just too small in the back, they're more like hatchbacks.
I've seen a couple of E63s fully blacked out, including the chrome strip on the tailgate, and debadged, super stealth. Guy at the dealership calls it the "business spec".

[Davil]

Originally Posted by NYNick

Sluggish? Jesus Christ what are you driving?

Originally Posted by aroundelway

It's my wifes. She is European and hates SUVs. The non-AMG was fine but a bit boring. 603hp AWD with the ability to make it fully RWD. Just more power everywhere than the CS, obviously not intended for the same purposes.

It is a just a normal wagon and blends in quite well until you put it in race mode.

Weirdly appealing vehicle in its own very Merc way that one. The classic German sledgehammer. If you are into stats, a whole 0.4 seconds quicker to 60 and 6mph quicker 1/4 trap speed than the CS.

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by Davil

Weirdly appealing vehicle in its own very Merc way that one. The classic German sledgehammer. If you are into stats, a whole 0.4 seconds quicker to 60 and 6mph quicker 1/4 trap speed than the CS.

And in the real world it's much quicker because it'll do that launch in most conditions, whereas the CS needs perfect conditions to get a good launch. Not to mention the launch control is much easier to engage. It's also easier to drift.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Davil

Are a lot of people selling them? I checked and there are 3 for sale in Australia, two of which are molested so that will be a much harder sell.

Certainly not selling mine!

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

The three aussies are all selling higher than retail and just came on the market in the last month. I’d hardly call this a stampede given there were 80 sold into the country

There are none for sale in Australian market - in fact, it's the first time since it's launch that none are on offer for sale

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by Davil

Weirdly appealing vehicle in its own very Merc way that one. The classic German sledgehammer. If you are into stats, a whole 0.4 seconds quicker to 60 and 6mph quicker 1/4 trap speed than the CS.

In most cases, trap speed will tell you how fast a car is. The M2cs is not a slow car, to have a delta of 6 mph at the end of the quarter is significant.

[m2ss]

Quick inquiry, here is a 2020 with 19,600 miles selling for approx. $75k USD...would this be considered a "good" deal?

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m2/m...%206L7&sprx=50

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by m2ss

Quick inquiry, here is a 2020 with 19,600 miles selling for approx. $75k USD...would this be considered a "good" deal?

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m2/m...%206L7&sprx=50

Not bad. That's an 85k car. Mine has over 19k miles on it and still feels as tight as day 1. No mechanical or electrical issues encountered. If you could get a good cpo warranty thrown in I'd say that would be a pretty sweet deal. Im not seeing the floor on these cars falling below 65k for a while with as well as the Comps are holding value.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by M3R1

In most cases, trap speed will tell you how fast a car is. The M2cs is not a slow car, to have a delta of 6 mph at the end of the quarter is significant.

The e63s is a beast. I would have had one by now if the wife wasn't against owning a station wagon

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

The e63s is a beast. I would have had one by now if the wife wasn't against owning a station wagon

That's grounds for divorce!

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by m2ss

Quick inquiry, here is a 2020 with 19,600 miles selling for approx. $75k USD...would this be considered a "good" deal?

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m2/m...%206L7&sprx=50

It's the highest mileage I've seen on one, so I'm not sure that's such a good deal. CS prices in Canada have come down quite a bit in the last month or two. Here is an example with one third the mileage, and the nicer wheels, for almost the same money:
https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m2/v...&urm=2&sprx=-1

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by Champ of America

It's the highest mileage I've seen on one, so I'm not sure that's such a good deal. CS prices in Canada have come down quite a bit in the last month or two. Here is an example with one third the mileage, and the nicer wheels, for almost the same money:
https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m2/v...&urm=2&sprx=-1

A good friend of mine that works for a BMW dealership can't explain it but said the same, over the last few months they've tanked...

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by Champ of America

That's grounds for divorce!

Well, according to my wife grounds for divorce would be pics of me anywhere near a Porsche dealership (provided by the private investigator she hired to follow me around)...

[to_riffic]

Everyone says 2023 is going to be a rough year in the market, so if it weren't for that, prices would be holding stronger, but not surprised to see prices softening.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Champ of America

That's grounds for divorce!

She agreed to my demand of no Minivan so I felt it was fare. I don't have a 911 because she doesn't like the look of them either. I got a ftype svr instead. That was while waiting on the CS. She has peculiar views on what cars look nice.

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by m2ss

A good friend of mine that works for a BMW dealership can't explain it but said the same, over the last few months they've tanked...

Everything has dropped recently, but the CS seems to have dropped more than the other stuff I'm keeping an eye on,

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

She agreed to my demand of no Minivan so I felt it was fare. I don't have a 911 because she doesn't like the look of them either. I got a ftype svr instead. That was while waiting on the CS. She has peculiar views on what cars look nice.

I missed the sound of my F Type SVR so much, it's what sold me on an F Pace SVR as a daily.

[Champ of America]

Originally Posted by m2ss

Well, according to my wife grounds for divorce would be pics of me anywhere near a Porsche dealership (provided by the private investigator she hired to follow me around)...

I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, most wives in my social circle hate me enough already!