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      11-10-2019, 12:59 PM   #375
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I really like the Wagner Evo 2 Competition. It had minimal lag. The Evo 1 comp is smaller and should have even less lag. Some cheaper intercoolers are a design (bar and plate?) that generally adds more lag, but heat soaks slower. Tube and fin designs are less lag and cool down faster, but heat soak quicker, and more expensive.
Is Wagner Evo 2 Competition a Tube and Fin design? Did it install with any issues? What mods are on your engine?
I had a shop install it. They said it was a tight fit but required no trimming. I just have a stage 1 ACN bm3 tune. The competition intercooler are tube and fin. Not tracking yet but I like the back roads and hate lag so seemed like the best fit.

https://www.wagner-tuning.uk/blog/pe...mpetition.html
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I had a shop install it. They said it was a tight fit but required no trimming. I just have a stage 1 ACN bm3 tune. The competition intercooler are tube and fin. Not tracking yet but I like the back roads and hate lag so seemed like the best fit.

https://www.wagner-tuning.uk/blog/pe...mpetition.html
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      11-12-2019, 02:02 PM   #377
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Am considering between Wagner Evo Competition 1, and 2 Intercooler for my M2. Which do you think would be best? Mods will be Charge Pipe ,(TBD), FabSpeed Sport Cat, and Bootmod 3 Stage 1 tune, or Stage 2 tune.
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Am considering between Wagner Evo Competition 1, and 2 Intercooler for my M2. Which do you think would be best? Mods will be Charge Pipe ,(TBD), FabSpeed Sport Cat, and Bootmod 3 Stage 1 tune, or Stage 2 tune.
EVO I if you plan on keeping stage 1 bm3
EVO II if you wish on going with stage 2 bm3

I would get EVO II with stage 2 bm3
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Opinion on the new Wagner Stage 3 with stock/dinan turbo ?
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EVO I if you plan on keeping stage 1 bm3
EVO II if you wish on going with stage 2 bm3

I would get EVO II with stage 2 bm3
Do you have a price for Wagner Evo 2 Competition to 02050?
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Opinion on the new Wagner Stage 3 with stock/dinan turbo ?
I would use EVO II with stock turbo, EVO III with Dinan
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      11-12-2019, 03:58 PM   #382
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I had a shop install it. They said it was a tight fit but required no trimming. I just have a stage 1 ACN bm3 tune. The competition intercooler are tube and fin. Not tracking yet but I like the back roads and hate lag so seemed like the best fit.

https://www.wagner-tuning.uk/blog/pe...mpetition.html
Am planning on ordering the Wagner Evo 2 Competition. What are you mods to your engine?
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      11-13-2019, 02:34 PM   #383
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Ok, one more question. Is there currently a tube and fin IC available for the M2? I know CSF made one but not sure if they still do.

The reason I'm interested because I want to minimize turbo lag and I won't be pushing the car past stock turbo and stage BM3 1 tune.
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Ok, one more question. Is there currently a tube and fin IC available for the M2? I know CSF made one but not sure if they still do.

The reason I'm interested because I want to minimize turbo lag and I won't be pushing the car past stock turbo and stage BM3 1 tune.
Only Wagner Tuning offer tube and fin intercoolers, EVO II Comp and EVO III Comp are available
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Hey guys,

Just got my new M2 with full akra system excl downpipe.

Will be doing aggressive driving around city + canyons + track.

70% city driving, 20% canyon driving, 10% track.

Melbourne gets hot summers from 30-40degrees for two months and 20-30 for spring.

Car will go for Stage 2.

Can you recommend a downpipe + charge pipe (maybe FTP?) + intercooler?

Would like to cut the car as minimally as possible.

Budget wise if performance difference is miniscule and difference in price is 50% then no thank you.

I appreciate all of yall's help!
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Hey guys,

Just got my new M2 with full akra system excl downpipe.

Will be doing aggressive driving around city + canyons + track.

70% city driving, 20% canyon driving, 10% track.

Melbourne gets hot summers from 30-40degrees for two months and 20-30 for spring.

Car will go for Stage 2.

Can you recommend a downpipe + charge pipe (maybe FTP?) + intercooler?

Would like to cut the car as minimally as possible.

Budget wise if performance difference is miniscule and difference in price is 50% then no thank you.

I appreciate all of yall's help!
I just installed Active Autoworks Intercooler, Evolution Raceworks Charge Pipe (thanks Extreme Power House), and Fabspeed Sport Cat. Can feel a nice bump in power and sound. I DD and Track my car. Intercooler is 65% more capacity than stock. If not tuning, do not go to big with intercooler or you may end up with Turbo Lag.
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I just installed Active Autoworks Intercooler, Evolution Raceworks Charge Pipe (thanks Extreme Power House), and Fabspeed Sport Cat. Can feel a nice bump in power and sound. I DD and Track my car. Intercooler is 65% more capacity than stock. If not tuning, do not go to big with intercooler or you may end up with Turbo Lag.
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What would you recommend for me?
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What would you recommend for me?
I recommend a 5" intercooler. Active Autowerke, Wagner EVO I or VRSF 5" HD are great options.
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I recommend a 5" intercooler. Active Autowerke, Wagner EVO I or VRSF 5" HD are great options.
Thanks for that. What's the diff between the VRSF 5" and 6.5"? Sorry I'm not very smart in this area. haha.
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Thanks for that. What's the diff between the VRSF 5" and 6.5"? Sorry I'm not very smart in this area. haha.
Its a larger core for better temp control but as explained above the larger the core, the higher the pressure drop.
the 6.5" is best used with stage 2+ application, 5" is best used for stage 1
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Its a larger core for better temp control but as explained above the larger the core, the higher the pressure drop.
the 6.5" is best used with stage 2+ application, 5" is best used for stage 1
Is the 6.5" not suitable for my application?

I have a VRFS catless downpipe, akra exhaust, FTP charge and boost pipe, BMS intake system in the garage. Just choosing an FMIC now.

It will go for BM3 Stage 2. I have a 2017 M2 LCI
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Is the 6.5" not suitable for my application?

I have a VRFS catless downpipe, akra exhaust, FTP charge and boost pipe, BMS intake system in the garage. Just choosing an FMIC now.

It will go for BM3 Stage 2. I have a 2017 M2 LCI
The VRSF 6.5" Competition HD would be perfectly suited for a tuned M2 in a warm environment
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Is the 6.5" not suitable for my application?

I have a VRFS catless downpipe, akra exhaust, FTP charge and boost pipe, BMS intake system in the garage. Just choosing an FMIC now.

It will go for BM3 Stage 2. I have a 2017 M2 LCI
VRSF 6.5" Comp is the perfect choice for stage 2 FBO car

FBO is what you have now, tune + DP + CP + FMIC and intake
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Does the VRSF 5" HD require any modifications to install.
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Does the VRSF 5" HD require any modifications to install.
It does not
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