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      08-10-2021, 08:02 PM   #1
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Which Intercooler is the Best ?

I am looking to upgrade my FMIC for my stage 3 big turbo M2 and was wondering what the best brand to get is. I was thinking about Dinan but not sure how I feel about cutting the car or even if it's the best one. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know !
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I don't think Dinan is the best route for a big turbo car.

I'd look at the Wagner evo 3 but that requires some modifications at best. It is a great intercooler aside from that.

I know ER is a popular intercooler but I'm not sure if it requires any modifications to the bumper.

I think most 5 inch intercoolers should work well and not require cutting if the car is below 550whp
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I don't think Dinan is the best route for a big turbo car.

I'd look at the Wagner evo 3 but that requires some modifications at best. It is a great intercooler aside from that.

I know ER is a popular intercooler but I'm not sure if it requires any modifications to the bumper.

I think most 5 inch intercoolers should work well and not require cutting if the car is below 550whp
what do you think about the VRSF 6.5 inch ?
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Personally (just my opinion) I'm not a big VRSF fan. I'd go with the other two mentioned but they are a great bang for the buck. I'm sure it'll keep up performance wise as long as it's above a 5 inch & your goals are over 500whp
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I am looking to upgrade my FMIC for my stage 3 big turbo M2 and was wondering what the best brand to get is. I was thinking about Dinan but not sure how I feel about cutting the car or even if it's the best one. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know !
Im assuming you have the M2, not the M2 Comp and you posted in the wrong section.

The best options for stage 3 are Wagner EVO III, Dinan , BMS Race, or MAD 7"

Cooling will be very similar with all these options. Wagner is the lightest by a big margin, Dinan is the heaviest. BMS and MAD weigh exactly the same.
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I am looking to upgrade my FMIC for my stage 3 big turbo M2 and was wondering what the best brand to get is. I was thinking about Dinan but not sure how I feel about cutting the car or even if it's the best one. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know !
Im assuming you have the M2, not the M2 Comp and you posted in the wrong section.

The best options for stage 3 are Wagner EVO III, Dinan , BMS Race, or MAD 7"

Cooling will be very similar with all these options. Wagner is the lightest by a big margin, Dinan is the heaviest. BMS and MAD weigh exactly the same.
yes, sorry I was referring to the OG F87 M2. so weight is the only main difference you would say ? I found a used dinan for half the price and can't find any used evo 3 so I been thinking about just getting the dinan one. but isn't the evo 3 slightly bigger though ?
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Personally (just my opinion) I'm not a big VRSF fan. I'd go with the other two mentioned but they are a great bang for the buck. I'm sure it'll keep up performance wise as long as it's above a 5 inch & your goals are over 500whp
well my goal is just to do port injection and lpfp once I get all the supporting mods first and I am currently running a borgwarner 8347 turbo. may get a hpfp as well but not exactly sure what route I wanna take
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yes, sorry I was referring to the OG F87 M2. so weight is the only main difference you would say ? I found a used dinan for half the price and can't find any used evo 3 so I been thinking about just getting the dinan one. but isn't the evo 3 slightly bigger though ?
The Dinan FMIC is a completely different design than the others mentioned. I prefer the stepped core used by Wagner/BMS/MAD. Dinan will be able to keep temps under control

If your goal is to save money, why don't you go with cheaper options BMS/MAD?
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Wagner Comp Evo. No there are no modifications required. I installed this, charge pipes, and a FI catted downpipe and it woke the N55 up significantly, no tune needed.
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Wagner Comp Evo. No there are no modifications required. I installed this, charge pipes, and a FI catted downpipe and it woke the N55 up significantly, no tune needed.
just the standard evo not the second or third gen ? also, how much hp can it hold up to ? I plan to do port injection and lpfp and don't wanna have to upgrade it later down the road to a bigger one
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yes, sorry I was referring to the OG F87 M2. so weight is the only main difference you would say ? I found a used dinan for half the price and can't find any used evo 3 so I been thinking about just getting the dinan one. but isn't the evo 3 slightly bigger though ?
The Dinan FMIC is a completely different design than the others mentioned. I prefer the stepped core used by Wagner/BMS/MAD. Dinan will be able to keep temps under control

If your goal is to save money, why don't you go with cheaper options BMS/MAD?
I'm leaning towards the BMS FMIC but not sure how much power I want to push since the car is my daily. like I said I only plan to do port injection and lpfp. I am kinda unfamiliar with how much power that'll bring to the table but if the 5.5 inch not enough support I will get BMS to save money. do you happen to know what the max hp the 5-5.5 inch intercoolers support ?
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Wagner Comp Evo. No there are no modifications required. I installed this, charge pipes, and a FI catted downpipe and it woke the N55 up significantly, no tune needed.
just the standard evo not the second or third gen ? also, how much hp can it hold up to ? I plan to do port injection and lpfp and don't wanna have to upgrade it later down the road to a bigger one
Evo 2 is what I had. Couldn't tell you what it is rated for but am very confident it won't be the bottleneck in your build. It is at least twice as dense as stock and larger. I wouldn't consider another IC.

Have you seen this thread?

THE ULTIMATE Intercooler Thread - What to Look For Before Buying an FMIC https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1458121
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Wagner Comp Evo. No there are no modifications required. I installed this, charge pipes, and a FI catted downpipe and it woke the N55 up significantly, no tune needed.
just the standard evo not the second or third gen ? also, how much hp can it hold up to ? I plan to do port injection and lpfp and don't wanna have to upgrade it later down the road to a bigger one
Evo 2 is what I had. Couldn't tell you what it is rated for but am very confident it won't be the bottleneck in your build. It is at least twice as dense as stock and larger. I wouldn't consider another IC.

Have you seen this thread?

THE ULTIMATE Intercooler Thread - What to Look For Before Buying an FMIC https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1458121
yes, I seen it ! I think since I'm stage 3 turbo I may need a bigger one to be honest. gonna have a talk with my shop for more insight cuz I'm not exactly sure what my car goals are as of now to be totally honest. I bought the car with the stage 3 turbo kit already on it so I'm doing more research on what supporting mods I need to support it. pretty sure I'll need the evo 3 if anything.
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Wagner Comp Evo. No there are no modifications required. I installed this, charge pipes, and a FI catted downpipe and it woke the N55 up significantly, no tune needed.
just the standard evo not the second or third gen ? also, how much hp can it hold up to ? I plan to do port injection and lpfp and don't wanna have to upgrade it later down the road to a bigger one
Evo 2 is what I had. Couldn't tell you what it is rated for but am very confident it won't be the bottleneck in your build. It is at least twice as dense as stock and larger. I wouldn't consider another IC.

Have you seen this thread?

THE ULTIMATE Intercooler Thread - What to Look For Before Buying an FMIC https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1458121
yes, I seen it ! I think since I'm stage 3 turbo I may need a bigger one to be honest. gonna have a talk with my shop for more insight cuz I'm not exactly sure what my car goals are as of now to be totally honest. I bought the car with the stage 3 turbo kit already on it so I'm doing more research on what supporting mods I need to support it. pretty sure I'll need the evo 3 if anything.
I run your kit with the smaller turbo (7670) and have the Evo 3. Just run the Evo 3 and don't look back...
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yes, I seen it ! I think since I'm stage 3 turbo I may need a bigger one to be honest. gonna have a talk with my shop for more insight cuz I'm not exactly sure what my car goals are as of now to be totally honest. I bought the car with the stage 3 turbo kit already on it so I'm doing more research on what supporting mods I need to support it. pretty sure I'll need the evo 3 if anything.
the EVO 3 performs better than EVO2 with upgraded turbos
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I'm leaning towards the BMS FMIC but not sure how much power I want to push since the car is my daily. like I said I only plan to do port injection and lpfp. I am kinda unfamiliar with how much power that'll bring to the table but if the 5.5 inch not enough support I will get BMS to save money. do you happen to know what the max hp the 5-5.5 inch intercoolers support ?
There are a lot of factors involved not just HP.

You can get away by using the BMS 5" on a daily driver stage 2, especially if you do not push the car on regular basis.

For max performance, get the BMS race for anything stage 2 or over
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Op,

We have an insane sale running right now on both of the intercooler setups that we offer. MAD 5 inch HD Stepped core and a 7 inch Hd stepped core.

The 5 inch is our most popular as its more than large enough for most applications and weighs slightly less. If you have larger turbos or plan to track the vehicle I would probably opt for the 7 inch. Both are straight bolt on with no modification necessary.


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