BMW M2 Coupe (F87): Wallpapers, Specifications, Info, Pictures, Videos

CRtoE92 · 10-14-2015, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrckt135

Looks like a 235 got stung by a bee and had an allergic reaction.

I like it but I don't love it.

Just so you know if you meant swollen as reaction, usually the reaction with Bee stung is related respiratory issue

CRtoE92 · 10-14-2015, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by antzcrashing

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Originally Posted by bobloblaw

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Originally Posted by adc

You didn't get his point. If you don't wait until next year, you can get an M3 now via ED for way more than $5k less than MSRP (7% is around $4300 plus $750 rebate, plus whatever else you can squeeze out of the dealer). Call it $54-55k.

But an M2 ED will go out for $51k - 5% ($2600), plus dealer markup for a great part of 2016 - $48.4k plus markup. Call it $50k.

So it's not a $11k difference at least initially.

It's not that important. If you want the M2 you will get that, and if you want an M3 you can make that work. I bet the lease monthly rates will be very similar. I'm paying around $650/month for my car, for reference.

I like the extra practicality of my M3, but if the M2 had ALL the M3 bits, I'd probably chose that instead.

Damn, how are you leasing an F80 for $650 a month?

35k downpayment

If you didnt calculate plugging in actual lease numbers Please dont be sarcastic and throw numbers in to confuse people

With minimally equipped M3 the msrp around $64000 with RV of 64% for 10k several months back maximizing MSD mid 600 is not impossible

bubsterino · 10-14-2015, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by greekcs

Watch they offer M-Performance mirrors for $2K.

wouldn't you do the same if you were bmw marketing based on the prevalence of the feedback? seriously - after looking through all the specs and photos, how exactly do mirrors come to mind?

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M3_WC · 10-14-2015, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by adc

Size matters not.

Weight does. There is practically an 80-90lbs difference between my car and an M2 which is not very significant, at least compared to the tire size difference.

It might drive a bit different due to the smaller wheelbase, but to me the M2 is heavy for a car of such small footprint. I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, I hope new owners will be happy with it. Just don't see any advantage in it the way it's specced out right now.

For reference, I've started with an E36 M3 too.

Completely disagree. The physical size of the car is very important. I would never cross shop the M3, it is too large. I have driven a good friends M4 numerous times on the street and local track. Yes the car is light on its feet, but I can't get over how big it feels. It feels like driving a M6 sized car. The size of the M2 is perfect, actually shorter than the E46 M3. With underpinnings of the M4 and shorter wheelbase, it should be a very agile and flickable package. My friend attended an autocross event in his M4, it looked so wrong on the very tight autocross course. Honestly BMW needs to build a car E46/Z4M size car and put full M effort into it. Not sure why they don't build a smaller high end sports car or sports coupe, with a higher price point. The enthusiasts want it. Maybe a M2 CSL is coming?

phoenixbmwlife · 10-14-2015, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CRtoE92

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Originally Posted by antzcrashing

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Originally Posted by bobloblaw

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Originally Posted by adc

You didn't get his point. If you don't wait until next year, you can get an M3 now via ED for way more than $5k less than MSRP (7% is around $4300 plus $750 rebate, plus whatever else you can squeeze out of the dealer). Call it $54-55k.

But an M2 ED will go out for $51k - 5% ($2600), plus dealer markup for a great part of 2016 - $48.4k plus markup. Call it $50k.

So it's not a $11k difference at least initially.

It's not that important. If you want the M2 you will get that, and if you want an M3 you can make that work. I bet the lease monthly rates will be very similar. I'm paying around $650/month for my car, for reference.

I like the extra practicality of my M3, but if the M2 had ALL the M3 bits, I'd probably chose that instead.

Damn, how are you leasing an F80 for $650 a month?

35k downpayment

If you didnt calculate plugging in actual lease numbers Please dont be sarcastic and throw numbers in to confuse people

With minimally equipped M3 the msrp around $64000 with RV of 64% for 10k several months back maximizing MSD mid 600 is not impossible

Agreed. I did the math and when the residuals were that high and if it's optioned right, with the right sale and with MSDs it was possible for a payment that low.

The sad thing is current residuals are garbage right now.

bobloblaw · 10-14-2015, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by STooK

Wow this release hit me like a brick. Wasn't expecting it to be revealed so soon.

Those of us who have been on the M2 board for a while probably couldn't disagree with you more. We feel like we've been waiting forever for the reveal

EmArAsOnS · 10-14-2015, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

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Originally Posted by FAM3

FLAME SUIT ACTIVATED!

I am sorry guys I really wanted to like this car but it looks terrible. Aside from the mirrors which I REALLY hope they fix, the fact that there is no CF roof is a huge disappointment. This is an M trademark at this point especially on the coupes (aside from the M6 GC). The lack of color options exterior and interior wise makes me feel they are "testing the waters" and did not have enough faith in this car.

There is a market for it but the market is for those who don't want to pay up for the M3/M4 just yet and I guess want more value. People who say this car is the next E46 M3 are out of their minds.

Just like the 1M they took parts from the current generation M3/4 and created a baby version. The worse part is, they are using the terrible N55 engine. The exhaust note does not sound much different from the current N55 if you ask me and I had a 335 for reference.

Whatever room for improvement will be minimal compared to N54 days which is why at least the 1M had some kind of engine going for it/its limited availability. Thumbs down from me. Maybe the CSL version will address most of these issues.

I think you are missing the point of the 1M and M2 - they are kept simple and "cost-saving" from certain perspectives on purpose. They give you over 90% of the performance of the M3/4, but not all the trinkets that are available. That's the point - they give you a taste of ///M, and if you want a fancier or more comfortable or more CF-blinged out car, there are options. Up the food chain and with a higher profit margin for BMW.

I wish those things were available too, but those aren't the features that make this car exciting. The fact that you're getting an M3 from the belt line down, in a smaller package, and for a cheaper price....well that's pretty awesome.

And congrats on going for the M3 - BMW will be happy to make one for you.

+1 ...exactly my thoughts.

newoldbeemer · 10-14-2015, 01:12 AM

OMG this has me so confused now. Not sure if I am still saving up for that E92 M3 or this instead or M235i or F80 M3...

E92 M3 still has that peaky engine that can't be had on "lesser" cars and will always be unique.

But this is newer, will probably be quicker on the street and perhaps more fun in day-to-day driving because of the power band. But then an M235i with an OEM tune (do they offer MPPK for it?) sounds attractive now.

F80 M3 is more attractive because that engine can't be had on a 340i.

Lets see what real list prices are. Around where I live, Golf R's go for no less than $45K so no way I'm ready to believe this will be available for $52K.

And I thought there's only one car to aim for - E92 M3 - So confused now

omegaSMP300 · 10-14-2015, 01:30 AM

Overall a nice little package from BMW. I do find the front vents to be too busy (as I do on many car ie the new bentley gt) and the slightly angled look, pinches it's broad stature. It reminds me of true religion jeans which on a some girls takes away some of their shape hah. The rear bumper is bland but the width is good and you can't deny the appeal of the 4 exhaust pipes. I'm sure there will be many happy m2 buyers!

Wolf · 10-14-2015, 01:37 AM

i need this in my life... Now!!!!!!

Savory · 10-14-2015, 02:40 AM

Overall, pretty nice. But a few things I don't like:
-Gas door is quite ungainly looking
-awkwardly positioned rear reflectors
-10 mm tire width less than M3/M4 on same exact wheels

The last part is odd because the 1M wore the same exact size tires as the E9X. Obviously BMW doesn't want the M2 to step on the toes of the F8X.

Hazey82 · 10-14-2015, 03:33 AM

I'm a little disappointed. BMW are clearly marketing this car to the younger M driver and mini M3 drivers car (aka e30-e46) yet it's missing so much that should go with it. Sure it's got the base ingredients to make it the drivers car choice but they could have done so much more.

- CF roof would have finished this off.
- Std 2er seats with M logo who are you trying to fool? Pathetic actually
- Lack of M mirrors - I know they are just mirrors but such a simple thing. Every M3 has had them including 1M.
- Whats with the cheap 3M DiNoc carbon trim
- Not liking the reflectors in the rear bumper vents. Will this be deleted like 1M for countries that don't require them. Otherwise blacking them out should solve that I guess

Having said all that I'm still interested but it's going to come down to price here down under.

Is the EPS out of the M4 or just a tweaked m235i?

ORIGIN M. · 10-14-2015, 03:35 AM

No I'd install them but it looks fine with the ones it has.

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Originally Posted by bubsterino

wouldn't you do the same if you were bmw marketing based on the prevalence of the feedback? seriously - after looking through all the specs and photos, how exactly do mirrors come to mind?

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ORIGIN M. · 10-14-2015, 03:44 AM

The car turned out great...

Opt: NO moonroof and when a CF Roof can be had aftermarket, then install one.

I love the ///M branded into the lean-backs of the Seats.

Buy CF Mirror covers and forget about it.

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Originally Posted by Hazey82

I'm a little disappointed. BMW are clearly marketing this car to the younger M driver and mini M3 drivers car (aka e30-e46) yet it's missing so much that should go with it. Sure it's got the base ingredients to make it the drivers car choice but they could have done so much more.

- CF roof would have finished this off. Make it an option at min
- Std 2er seats with M logo who are you trying to fool? Pathetic actually
- Lack of M mirrors - I know they are just mirrors but such a simple thing. Every M3 has had them including 1M.
- Whats with the cheap 3M DiNoc carbon trim
- Not liking the reflectors in the rear bumper vents. Will this be deleted like 1M for countries that don't require them. Otherwise blacking them out should solve that I guess

Is the EPS out of the M4 or just a tweaked m235i?

eugegall · 10-14-2015, 03:51 AM

When will we see photos of more colours?

ORIGIN M. · 10-14-2015, 04:09 AM

Moonroof option yes, or no?

Anyone?

ORIGIN M. · 10-14-2015, 04:10 AM

Absolutely.

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Originally Posted by cntzl

I wonder if it's going to have an M performance exhaust option...

M3 n X5M · 10-14-2015, 04:20 AM

The comparisons of the M2 to the M235i are out of place IMHO.

The notion that a tune or a turbo upgrade will match the two cars is unfounded.

I am amazed at the laundry list of changes seen in the M2: bearings, mounts, stiffening, optimized air flow, turbo integration to exhaust manifold like in the M6, aero body optimization, drivetrain hardening, M4 suspension, subframe hard mount, proper diff, oil sump, cooling, extra cooling, DCT or optimized 6MT...

Did I miss anything?

M235i advocates are overlooking all this when pricing and power figures are the basis of the comparison suggesting the M235i is similar.

The M2 sounds to be an M formula car. By formula, I hypothesize the M division proposed a certain set of qualities and met them with this new car, in which, most parts were optimized with concerted testing and design steps.

No tuners M235i should feel close.

This IS an M car. Period.

ORIGIN M. · 10-14-2015, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 n X5M

The comparisons of the M2 to the M235i are out of place IMHO.

The notion that a tune or a turbo upgrade will match the two cars is unfounded.

I am amazed at the laundry list of changes seen in the M2: bearings, mounts, stiffening, optimized air flow, turbo integration to exhaust manifold like in the M6, aero body optimization, drivetrain hardening, M4 suspension, subframe hard mount, proper diff, oil sump, cooling, extra cooling, DCT or optimized 6MT...

Did I miss anything?

M235i advocates are overlooking all this when pricing and power figures are the basis of the comparison suggesting the M235i is similar.

The M2 sounds to be an M formula car. By formula, I hypothesize the M division proposed a certain set of qualities and met them with this new car, in which, most parts were optimized with concerted testing and design steps.

No tuners M235i should feel close.

This IS an M car. Period.

Correct.

You missed nothing.

Driving this car is first priority.

Everything else is secondary for now.

Nightfall · 10-14-2015, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Moonroof option yes, or no?

Anyone?

It's listed in the german pricelist so I guess the US model should also have this option.

Zuzu · 10-14-2015, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfall

It's listed in the german pricelist so I guess the US model should also have this option.

What else.. Is there a CF roof option

Nightfall · 10-14-2015, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzu

What else.. Is there a CF roof option

Nope, it's pretty much the same as the regular 2-series. There aren't any perfomance oriented options at all (apart from the automatic transmission).

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newoldbeemer Major 266 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 328i Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0)	OMG this has me so confused now. Not sure if I am still saving up for that E92 M3 or this instead or M235i or F80 M3... E92 M3 still has that peaky engine that can't be had on "lesser" cars and will always be unique. But this is newer, will probably be quicker on the street and perhaps more fun in day-to-day driving because of the power band. But then an M235i with an OEM tune (do they offer MPPK for it?) sounds attractive now. F80 M3 is more attractive because that engine can't be had on a 340i. Lets see what real list prices are. Around where I live, Golf R's go for no less than $45K so no way I'm ready to believe this will be available for $52K. And I thought there's only one car to aim for - E92 M3 - So confused now __________________ Has a bad car addiction
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omegaSMP300 Lieutenant 65 Rep 520 Posts Drives: Macan S, Boxster GTS, R8 V10+ Join Date: May 2012 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Overall a nice little package from BMW. I do find the front vents to be too busy (as I do on many car ie the new bentley gt) and the slightly angled look, pinches it's broad stature. It reminds me of true religion jeans which on a some girls takes away some of their shape hah. The rear bumper is bland but the width is good and you can't deny the appeal of the 4 exhaust pipes. I'm sure there will be many happy m2 buyers! __________________ 2017 R8 V10 Plus, 2016 Boxster GTS, 2015 Macan S, 2015 V12 Vantage S - Pending Sale, 2013 911 C4S - Sold, 2012 V8 Vantage S - Sold, 2013 DB9 - Sold, 2011 997.2 Targa 4s - Sold, 2011 E90 335i M-Sport - Sold, 2013 981 Boxster S - Sold, 2006 E46 M3 - Sold, 2010 E60 M5 - Sold, 2006 E46 M3 - Sold, 2011.5 E90 M3 - Sold, 2006 325i - Sold, 2004 Mazda6 - Sold
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Savory Kaskasero 55 Rep 345 Posts Drives: You Insane Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Azusa, Ca iTrader: (0)	Overall, pretty nice. But a few things I don't like: -Gas door is quite ungainly looking -awkwardly positioned rear reflectors -10 mm tire width less than M3/M4 on same exact wheels The last part is odd because the 1M wore the same exact size tires as the E9X. Obviously BMW doesn't want the M2 to step on the toes of the F8X. __________________ Rides: BSM E53 X5 3.0i \| Mods: 4.8is Style 168 wheels 1996 MB C280 Sport 2001 E39 M5
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Hazey82 Lieutenant 277 Rep 579 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Comp Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oz iTrader: (0)	I'm a little disappointed. BMW are clearly marketing this car to the younger M driver and mini M3 drivers car (aka e30-e46) yet it's missing so much that should go with it. Sure it's got the base ingredients to make it the drivers car choice but they could have done so much more. - CF roof would have finished this off. - Std 2er seats with M logo who are you trying to fool? Pathetic actually - Lack of M mirrors - I know they are just mirrors but such a simple thing. Every M3 has had them including 1M. - Whats with the cheap 3M DiNoc carbon trim - Not liking the reflectors in the rear bumper vents. Will this be deleted like 1M for countries that don't require them. Otherwise blacking them out should solve that I guess Having said all that I'm still interested but it's going to come down to price here down under. Is the EPS out of the M4 or just a tweaked m235i?
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eugegall Second Lieutenant 178 Rep 281 Posts Drives: M4 CS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Surrey, UK iTrader: (0)	When will we see photos of more colours?
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ORIGIN M. Banned 3160 Rep 9,134 Posts Drives: ///M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Hemisphere iTrader: (0)	Moonroof option yes, or no? Anyone?
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M3 n X5M Lieutenant 172 Rep 436 Posts Drives: 2011 X5 M, 2008 e90 M3 6 MT. Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	The comparisons of the M2 to the M235i are out of place IMHO. The notion that a tune or a turbo upgrade will match the two cars is unfounded. I am amazed at the laundry list of changes seen in the M2: bearings, mounts, stiffening, optimized air flow, turbo integration to exhaust manifold like in the M6, aero body optimization, drivetrain hardening, M4 suspension, subframe hard mount, proper diff, oil sump, cooling, extra cooling, DCT or optimized 6MT... Did I miss anything? M235i advocates are overlooking all this when pricing and power figures are the basis of the comparison suggesting the M235i is similar. The M2 sounds to be an M formula car. By formula, I hypothesize the M division proposed a certain set of qualities and met them with this new car, in which, most parts were optimized with concerted testing and design steps. No tuners M235i should feel close. This IS an M car. Period.
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