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I think I'd prefer rear seat with cup holders, but on the flip side it would promote the kids having drinks in back. I can see a milk shake incident occuring all over the back seat. Kids are nasty. The little ones build accumulation under their car seats, and bigger ones manage to find any open space to deposit trash.
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12-17-2019, 12:29 PM | #845 |
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Again, BMW basically confirmed via BMW blog website as they told them that is the curb weight. You google the curb weight of the M2 CS and you will find 3,417 without CCB and a manual TM. So I highly doubt they weight the same. |
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My daughter likes the armrest with cupholders of the 40/20/40 rear seats inside my car.
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SportAuto has weighed both cars. Their test M2CS with CCB was 94lbs less than M2C. According to M CEO CCB rotors are a 55 lbs(25 kg) savings. So a non-CCB optioned M2 CS is about 39 lbs less than the M2C. |
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Now all the Euro BMW sites have the Comp and CS listed with same weight. Including Spain, who has their configurator up. UK BMW site has same weights listed for Comp and CS as well. 1625kg/1650kg(Unladen EU includes 75kg for driver/luggage). https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/all-models/...ata.html#tab-0 https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/all-models/...ata.html#tab-1 The reason I think this is happening is overseas the standard M2 Comp still has lighter 437M wheels, lighter standard M2 seats, lighter blue caliper brakes. Less standard equipment all together for Euro market. I have no doubts base cars do actually weigh the same in Europe/UK. US market will be a different story, since the Comp got most of the upgraded equipment standard. Their M2 Comp was more heavily optioned. Similar spec to a US version, big brakes, M4 seats, heavy 788m wheels, etc. Last edited by DieGrüneHölle; 12-17-2019 at 05:07 PM.. |
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Not sure as the M2 Comp is 3,582 with manual. Not sure where all these stats are coming from? Im just so confused. You google these curb weights and it pops up immeditaly. We shall wait and see I guess. so BMW is lying? |
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When the M2C came out everyone was calling it piggy going by BMW advertised car weights. The M2C was supposed to be 150 pounds more than the OGM2. Then a guy that owned both cars weighed them and the difference was just over 100 pounds. Which could be explained by the heavier 788 wheels, huge brake calipers and more engine cooling.
They will sort out the M2CS weight on scales soon enough. In the mean time I really don't think it will be enough weight difference to be a big deal. |
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When the M2C came out, there were 5,873 posts filled with the rending of garments and lamentations to the heavens over a) its weight, b) the lack of color options, c) the ugly new wheels, d) the fact that it didn't come with a carbon roof, e) its lack of a HUD, f) its inferior Dakota leather, g) the horrible open weave carbon... etc., etc., etc... ad nauseum. And every other comment was, "What a fat s*** car! For the same money I could just go get a lightly used GT4 instead!" Now that the M2CS is being announced, miraculously, the comments seem to all be, "Well, I knew all along that the M2C was the real value play - see, they upgraded the engine to the S55 and ONLY up-charged $5k. I knew all along that the M2C was the bargain of the century." Years ago, my buddy's girlfriend was the product manager in charge of Honey Bunches of Oats. My favorite cereal. Yum, yum! Apparently there's a passionate enthusiast community of Honey Bunches of Oats fans. I asked her if she did focus groups with them and got their feedback for product planning. She said, "No. Never. We try to ignore them entirely. They're all idiots. All they do is complain all the time." |
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My only complaint about the CS is the price, everything else looks kosher..
I would fux with it, if I could of swing it.. But I understand BMW gotta to eat too and apparently they're having a Kobe steak |
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