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      05-16-2019, 11:57 AM   #177
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LOL! I think in typical BMW fashion the information out there is scattered, inconsistent and not timely. If what some here are saying is true (i.e. cars at VPC are getting airbag parts replaced and released for sale, production back at Leipzig has resumed with the updated parts, and cars on the lots are scheduled to get repaired) then the flyer and date of May 27th is probably accurate.

I bet the July time frame is more for sold cars already in the wild, which are lower priority for BMW as they're already sold. Once the recall parts are more readily available, they'll send notices out to the owners to bring their cars in for the replacement.

BMW's most urgent priority are the cars at the ports and dealership lots - cuz these are inventory in their financials that need to be sold yesterday for their profits and revenue. Not to mention the costs to store and have the vehicles sit.

Now this is all my own conjecture, and somewhat optimistic reasoning that the flyer is accurate and BMW is high tailing their asses to get these cars available for sale.... when in doubt follow corporate behavior.
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      05-16-2019, 12:22 PM   #178
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That's my feeling too. We know that production has started up again on the affected lines, so there is a fix being applied. The announcement I posted earlier came from my dealership Sales Manager, and it doesn't surprise me that it hasn't filtered down to the BMWUSA call centers. Also, for anyone whose car is stranded at the dealership rather than the VPC, it's worth noting that the cars are marked "no sale" rather than "no drive". In theory the dealership might be able to offer you an "extended test drive" or a "loaner" for a couple of days in order to get a taste before the parts are in.

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Talked to my sales rep on Monday and 5/27 is when parts will start arriving. The flier posted is valid. Hopefully its true for all locations!!! Seems to be true because i haven't been on the blog since last week. Just now seeing this flier!!!!
Mine told me that flier was not true, also heard from two others who's dealers denied the validity of that
Mine told me it is valid.
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      05-16-2019, 12:50 PM   #180
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LOL! I think in typical BMW fashion the information out there is scattered, inconsistent and not timely. If what some here are saying is true (i.e. cars at VPC are getting airbag parts replaced and released for sale, production back at Leipzig has resumed with the updated parts, and cars on the lots are scheduled to get repaired) then the flyer and date of May 27th is probably accurate.

I bet the July time frame is more for sold cars already in the wild, which are lower priority for BMW as they're already sold. Once the recall parts are more readily available, they'll send notices out to the owners to bring their cars in for the replacement.

BMW's most urgent priority are the cars at the ports and dealership lots - cuz these are inventory in their financials that need to be sold yesterday for their profits and revenue. Not to mention the costs to store and have the vehicles sit.

Now this is all my own conjecture, and somewhat optimistic reasoning that the flyer is accurate and BMW is high tailing their asses to get these cars available for sale.... when in doubt follow corporate behavior.
Your point of their priority matches what they told me tho.
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My car was built this week so the question is, was it done with the problematic airbags or the corrected ones?
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My car was built this week so the question is, was it done with the problematic airbags or the corrected ones?
I believe they are corrected ones. The recall notice stated the affected cars were built through 4/30/2019, which implies those after are in good order. From a more practical point of view.. why would you continue to build cars with a known bad part? The cost to correct erodes your profits. Also, modern just in time manufacturing practices means that there is no more than a days worth of parts in inventory on the assembly line. It should not take long to get the corrected parts on line and into new builds. Just my 2 cents :-)
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This is so frustrating.
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I saw in another thread that an ED M2 had the fix made in time for the delivery, which gives me hope.
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      05-17-2019, 12:36 PM   #185
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Just placed the order, no airbag issues here, production started and delivery in 30 days
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Just placed the order, no airbag issues here, production started and delivery in 30 days
More good news - TGIF everyone!
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I am supposed to pick up my 2020 BMW 440i on May 13th. The dealership will not release my car due to this recall. I called the dealer serval times, and they still have no any updates for the fix.

Anyone have recent updates?

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I am supposed to pick up my 2020 BMW 440i on May 13th. The dealership will not release my car due to this recall. I called the dealer serval times, and they still have no any updates for the fix.

Anyone have recent updates?

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Best unconfirmed estimate is May 27th from another member though my salesman could not confirm that and neither could the performance center
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Best unconfirmed estimate is May 27th from another member though my salesman could not confirm that and neither could the performance center
Thank you for your response. I really hope that it is coming soon. Mine is convertible and we have really short summer here. getting it on June vs July makes huge differences.
Today, the BMW website is finally updated for this recall. At this point, I have no idea what to do except waiting, and July seems just far away.

"How will I be informed of this Safety Recall?

You will receive a letter in July via First Class mail advising you of this Safety Recall. Depending upon parts availability, this letter may request you to schedule an appointment with an authorized BMW center to have this Safety Recall performed."
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Best unconfirmed estimate is May 27th from another member though my salesman could not confirm that and neither could the performance center
Thank you for your response. I really hope that it is coming soon. Mine is convertible and we have really short summer here. getting it on June vs July makes huge differences.
Today, the BMW website is finally updated for this recall. At this point, I have no idea what to do except waiting, and July seems just far away.

"How will I be informed of this Safety Recall?

You will receive a letter in July via First Class mail advising you of this Safety Recall. Depending upon parts availability, this letter may request you to schedule an appointment with an authorized BMW center to have this Safety Recall performed."
Yeah it's not looking good. But if they've fixed the problem on cars since May, it shouldn't take long for parts to be available
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Yeah it's not looking good. But if they've fixed the problem on cars since May, it shouldn't take long for parts to be available
The dealer said that he would catch up with me next week (not sure when exactly). It is frustrating because they never confirmed anything about May 27th or July. They just said they ordered the part but it was currently unavailable. So here I go, sitting in front of my laptop and looking for details\information myself and feeling the fix would not be here in next couple months.

I am paying my insurance already for the car even thought it is sitting in the dealership and being lonely.....I am shocked how BMW handled this. It has been 2 weeks since the original 'no sale' recall on May 3rd.

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Yeah it's not looking good. But if they've fixed the problem on cars since May, it shouldn't take long for parts to be available
The dealer said that he would catch up with me next week (not sure when exactly). It is frustrating because they never confirmed anything about May 27th or July. They just said they ordered the part but it was currently available. So here I go, sitting in front of my laptop and looking for details\information myself and feeling the fix would not be here in next couple months.

I am paying my insurance already for the car even thought it is sitting in the dealership and being lonely.....I am shocked how BMW handled this. It has been 2 weeks since the original 'no sale' recall on May 3rd.
Just to clarify - your CA said the part was or wasn't available?

And did you purchase/lease the car already? If so, I guess there was no stop sale on your car or the recall hit right after you signed the docs and they held the car. Either way, I'd call your insurance agent and explain - I'm sure they can hold the insurance coverage until the car is fixed and you have in your possession.
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Just to clarify - your CA said the part was or wasn't available?

And did you purchase/lease the car already? If so, I guess there was no stop sale on your car or the recall hit right after you signed the docs and they held the car. Either way, I'd call your insurance agent and explain - I'm sure they can hold the insurance coverage until the car is fixed and you have in your possession.
The sale manager said that the part WAS NOT available 3 days ago (sorry for the typo) and they do not have ETA up to yesterday. I did not bother them today as I do not think one day would make any differences.

This is a super strange experience. I paid in full and signed the docs, registration and everything. The recall happened May 3rd but the dealer did not catch it until I was picking up the car.
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The sale manager said that the part WAS NOT available 3 days ago (sorry for the typo) and they do not have ETA up to yesterday. I did not bother them today as I do not think one day would make any differences.

This is a super strange experience. I paid in full and signed the docs, registration and everything. The recall happened May 3rd but the dealer did not catch it until I was picking up the car.
If that's the case you shouldn't feel bad about hounding them for some extra consideration. If you already paid than your end of the sale contract is complete and they aren't holding up their end of the transaction. If they didn't notice the stop sale before they took your money than that's on them. Seems like your dealership should be able to argue that point with BMW corporate. Keep in mind that the cars are listed as okay to drive, so they should have some flexibility.

There are several of us in a similar situation and we can keep you updated with what we're hearing from the various sources.
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If that's the case you shouldn't feel bad about hounding them for some extra consideration. If you already paid than your end of the sale contract is complete and they aren't holding up their end of the transaction. If they didn't notice the stop sale before they took your money than that's on them. Seems like your dealership should be able to argue that point with BMW corporate. Keep in mind that the cars are listed as okay to drive, so they should have some flexibility.

There are several of us in a similar situation and we can keep you updated with what we're hearing from the various sources.
the dealer won't release the car because they would face up to 45k penalty.
I can just wait and keep eyes on your updates
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If the parts really do start arriving on the 27th, and they really are going to prioritize sold cars first, then it shouldn't be bad at all. Another week or two isn't that bad.

The original recall was for 11,000+ cars or something, but the affected number according the flyer is under 500 (unfortunately, all newer 2 series). I can see how getting 11k airbags (or 22k if it's both sides) would be complicated and may take until July. If it's only 500 cars, it shouldn't be that bad hopefully (and that May 27th date seems more realistic).
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I think that's the primary question - is 5/27 official and true.
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