[omasou]

Originally Posted by Artemis

See this dedicated thread: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1177987 (" M2 transmission: do you prefer manual or double-clutch ?")

Stats after 390 votes:

• 238 out of 390 = 61.03%: manual transmission;
• 152 out of 390 = 38.97%: M-DCT Drivelogic.

The breakdown always kept on hovering around 3/5 manual and 2/5 M-DCT.

That's what people say but this is what people "bought"...

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805

DCT 402 56.4%
6MT 311 43.6%

If this isn't the correct thread or if there are updated #s then please correct.

[slashrawr]

Originally Posted by omasou

That's what people say but this is what people "bought"...

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805

DCT 402 56.4%
6MT 311 43.6%

If this isn't the correct thread or if there are updated #s then please correct.

I think your figures reflect general reality as opposed to a small collection of performance car enthusiasts. At least it reflects the choices of those who have bought from my local dealership because they've gone so far as to not stock any manual cars at all, not even for test drives. I know a single dealership does not a significant statistic make, but whatevs right?

[DCM2]

This was my first manual car and I understand that most users on this forum have driven manuals for years. Although it's considered an "easy manual", now that I've grown very comfortable with it, I could not imagine going with the DCT. Sure it's faster from a standstill (for me anyway) and the shifts are faster, but the pure enjoyment of being connected with the car and rowing through the gears really makes me appreciate why people love driving manuals and I could not be happier.

The auto rev feature with the clutch makes the rush hour traffic on I35 negligible. It's actually kind of fun for me / good practice to get off smoothly.

Get the manual!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by omasou

That's what people say but this is what people "bought"...
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805
DCT 402 56.4%
6MT 311 43.6%
If this isn't the correct thread or if there are updated #s then please correct.

Undoubtedly, more M-DCT than 6MT are manufactured. If an M-DCT happens to be(come) available at a dealership, but you want the 6MT, you may get swayed to get the M-DCT in order to skip the waiting line.

When VINs of 333 early M2s were unearthed a year ago, the breakdown was as follows (as per Dec 20, 2015):
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...6#post19078826

1H93 = US spec (Left Hand Drive): 133 M2 cars retrieved
(VIN: V351800 through V351932)

• Transmission:
  • 90 M-DCT = 67.67% (LBB: 38 | AW: 25 | BSM: 15 | MG: 12)
  • 43 6MT = 32.33% (LBB: 37 | AW: 1 | BSM: 2 | MG: 3)
• Color:
  • 75 LBB = 56.39%
  • 26 AW = 19.55%
  • 17 BSM = 12.78%
  • 15 MG = 11.28%
• M Drivers Package:
  • 99 no M Drivers Package (V-Max limited to 250 km/h or 155 mph) = 74.44%
  • 34 M Drivers Package (V-Max delimited to at least 270 km/h or 168 mph) = 25.56%

1H91 = EURO spec (Left Hand Drive): 100 M2 cars retrieved
(VIN: V353000 through V353099)

• Transmission:
  • 80 M-DCT = 80.00% (LBB: 47 | AW: 14 | BSM: 13 | MG: 6)
  • 20 6MT = 20.00% (LBB: 9 | AW: 2 | BSM: 4 | MG: 5)
• Color:
  • 56 LBB = 56.00%
  • 16 AW = 16.00%
  • 17 BSM = 17.00%
  • 11 MG = 11.00%
• M Drivers Package:
  • 77 no M Drivers Package (V-Max limited to 250 km/h or 155 mph) = 77.00%
  • 33 M Drivers Package (V-Max delimited to at least 270 km/h or 168 mph) = 33.00%

1H92 = EURO spec (Right Hand Drive): 100 M2 cars retrieved
(VIN: V353100 through V353199)

• Transmission:
  • 95 M-DCT = 95.00% (LBB: 63 | AW: 15 | BSM: 15 | MG: 2)
  • 5 6MT = 5.00% (LBB: 1 | AW: 2 | BSM: 1 | MG: 1)
• Color:
  • 64 LBB = 64.00%
  • 17 AW = 17.00%
  • 16 BSM = 16.00%
  • 3 MG = 3.00%
• M Drivers Package:
  • 95 no M Drivers Package (V-Max limited to 250 km/h or 155 mph) = 95.00%
  • 5 M Drivers Package (V-Max delimited to at least 270 km/h or 168 mph) = 5.00%

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by Nicname

The one thing that's amazing about the dct is the layout and practical use of the shift nob. For some reason I refuse to use the paddle shifters so it's nice to have a nob that has the up/down shifts in the right logical direction unlike other cars

+1

My last car was DCT and i never used the paddles, felt boring to me, always used the shift lever to change gears. Probably the reason why i got manual LOL.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by omasou

That's what people say but this is what people "bought"...

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805

DCT 402 56.4%
6MT 311 43.6%

If this isn't the correct thread or if there are updated #s then please correct.

This is great info .. I think that the " enthusiast numbers " may represent people who may have actually sought the car out and endeavored to spec it their way if possible.

Overall however, I think a lot of people who purchased a 2016 M2 got what their dealer ordered, which more than likely was LBB or AW and DCT.

[pruettfan]

It is funny that most would consider Europeans and in particular Germans to be enthusiastic drivers but they don't go for manuals nearly as much as Americans. The M5 was only offered in manual because of the US market, it ended up losing its manual because of lack of demand here. I like choices so I am glad they offer the manual even though I am a DCT guy through and through.

[domriley]

Go with the manual. The clutch is quite light and the throw is not too short so it's very easy to use. You get rev matching as well for relaxed spirited driving and can still go all in if you have to.
Not many 6MT with so much flexibility

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by domriley

Go with the manual. The clutch is quite light and the throw is not too short so it's very easy to use. You get rev matching as well for relaxed spirited driving and can still go all in if you have to.
Not many 6MT with so much flexibility

Small note: when cruising with cruise control active, the manual gearbox of the M2 automatically resumes cruise control after shifting. If you keep holding the clutch for a longer period, it won't resume (+ a cruise control deactivation message is displayed).

That wasn't the case with my previous ///M cars: whenever I shifted during cruising, cruise control deactivated (but still on standby). I was required to push the 'resume' button in order to resume the cruise control speed.

[z3lai]

as a dd for my wife, i had no choice...
But no regret at all

[bdogk]

I'm an "old fart" who grew up driving MT from the 2002/320i/325is days. I went for DCT on my M2 and have absolutely no regrets.

As DD in city driving, DCT is convenient and fast. Having driven M2/M3/M4 DCT at Thermal, you can't beat the quick up-shifts and down-shifts during heavy braking and into turns.

With DCT, I enjoy blasting through the gears in Sports+ and hearing the tires chirp from first/second, second/third when space permits. The one weakness with 6MT is that I find 1st gear too short the shift between first/second a little notchy. That has been typical of all MT BMW's I've owned.

So there's no right or wrong choosing MT or DCT. Just go with your gut feeling.

[M2Dynamic]

Went DCT this time, my last two were MT. I miss my MT but I definitely don't miss it during traffic everyday home from work. It's a very tough choice that you really have to just go with your gut on. I went DCT for two reasons- traffic, wife likes driving it once in a while.

To be honest the DCT is one of the best transmissions I've ever driven and I don't ever regret it during daily life. It's times like this when reading about it once in a while that I say damn I miss it then I get in and rip through the gears and that thought just disappears. So it's really never a right or wrong choice.

At the end of the day I think it's good to experience both. Whatever you choose good luck and enjoy!

[Dave-A]

If you have to ask, buy the DCT.

Buying a manual is generally a criteria from the outset.

[///M-pressed]

I went with manual, because I lose interest so quickly when a car is DCT (Unless we're talking about a Ferrari or other supercar).

[DTNJNQ]

I bought the manual. After a test drive the DCT didn't impress me.

[Verdi]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

It is funny that most would consider Europeans and in particular Germans to be enthusiastic drivers but they don't go for manuals nearly as much as Americans. The M5 was only offered in manual because of the US market, it ended up losing its manual because of lack of demand here. I like choices so I am glad they offer the manual even though I am a DCT guy through and through.

Driving a manual was never a "thing" in Europe. I think that's why.

[dagwoodnil]

Thank you for such great response!

I will stick with my Manual options.
I haven't driven a Manual for 30+ years so it should be fun!

[DivideBYZero]

Originally Posted by Verdi

Driving a manual was never a "thing" in Europe. I think that's why.

Exactly. Nobody in Europe gets a Hero Complex from driving a manual, because everyone does it. Nobody brags about driving a manual, because everyone's Grandma can, and probably does, drive a manual.

[Denk]

If manual was a $2.9k option over DCT, how many "enthusiasts" would actually option the manual? DCT is an upcharge and the majority still opt for it...I'm sure some true manual fans would pay the premium but it would weed out the true manual fans to the rationalizer's. Money talks, just saying.

[kiysersosae]

Originally Posted by DivideBYZero

Exactly. Nobody in Europe gets a Hero Complex from driving a manual, because everyone does it. Nobody brags about driving a manual, because everyone's Grandma can, and probably does, drive a manual.

Here here! I'm sick of changing gear with 2 parts of my body, I prefer the up to date and much faster paddle shift.. Any gear any time

[Verdi]

Originally Posted by Denk

If manual was a $2.9k option over DCT, how many "enthusiasts" would actually option the manual? DCT is an upcharge and the majority still opt for it...I'm sure some true manual fans would pay the premium but it would weed out the true manual fans to the rationalizer's. Money talks, just saying.

I acutally think I would. I had the DCT in the M2 I owned this summer and to be honest, I didn't really feel connected to the car. It was more like a video game. Blip blip...

Sure, it's probably fun but for me it doesn't FEEL right in a car that's all about the joy of driving. For me. I won't track my M2. It's just about having fun without breaking too many speed limits. Which I did with the DCT because that's where fun starts with that...

[David1]

I went DCT. I will never go back to a manual in the modern car unless the manual is quicker. I am past the "manual feels better" topic.