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      10-17-2016, 11:57 AM   #23
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I'd imagine mine is pretty common. LBB, Exec, 6MT, Car Play
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      10-17-2016, 12:07 PM   #24
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I realize you were posting this as a fun exercise, but you have to be careful how you apply statistics.

For example, stats may show that 31.5% of M2s are LBB, and 60% of M2s have DCT.

But this does not necessarily imply that 60% of LBB M2s have DCT.

For all we know, buyers who prefer LBB may disproportionately prefer 6MT (e.g., 80% versus 20%).

Likewise, AW buyers might have gone for the Exec Package at a lower rate than buyers of other colors.

Still, even with those caveats, a fun exercise! Thanks and regards. -scr
I agree as on the board I would say it's 60-40 for Manuel but if the dealer orders they might have a preference for DCT because it ups the price approx 3k which increases dealer profit.
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      10-17-2016, 12:17 PM   #25
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I have MG, 6MT and no exec package on the way, guess I will in the rare category.
Mine will be MG, 6MT but with the exec package. Picking it up at the performance center on 11/4, maybe I'll see you around DC.
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      10-17-2016, 12:34 PM   #26
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2017 Mineral Grey, 6MT, No Exec.

I kinda figured that would not be a very popular build.
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      10-17-2016, 01:29 PM   #27
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Reppucci did a calculation of 2016 M2 production numbers for the US and Canada in this thread.It shows how low the production numbers are for the M2.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...light=reppucci
all you want to know about MY16 North American production numbers!


BTW Only 3 BSM 6MT non exec M2's produced for MY16!

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805
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      10-17-2016, 01:55 PM   #28
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Reppucci did a calculation of 2016 M2 production numbers for the US and Canada in this thread.It shows how low the production numbers are for the M2.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...light=reppucci
Wasn't 2016 not even 3 full months of customer-ordered production?
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      10-17-2016, 01:57 PM   #29
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all you want to know about MY16 North American production numbers!


BTW Only 3 BSM 6MT non exec M2's produced for MY16!

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805
I forgot about that thread.Thanks for all your work compiling the production data for the M2.
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      10-17-2016, 03:56 PM   #30
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One might want to ask, do I have a rare build our an undesirable build as no one wanted a car that way? I think about this mostly in terms of a manual car. Many people on the board want one, but less than 10% of licensed divers can drive one, let alone want one. Rare or undesirable? Add that the manual is slower. No manual/ DCT battle here, just a discussion of rarity translating to resale value.
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      10-17-2016, 04:07 PM   #31
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One might want to ask, do I have a rare build our an undesirable build as no one wanted a car that way? I think about this mostly in terms of a manual car. Many people on the board want one, but less than 10% of licensed divers can drive one, let alone want one. Rare or undesirable? Add that the manual is slower. No manual/ DCT battle here, just a discussion of rarity translating to resale value.
I'd be surprised at that being an issue for this particular car's target market, even 10 years from now.
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      10-17-2016, 05:47 PM   #32
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One might want to ask, do I have a rare build our an undesirable build as no one wanted a car that way? I think about this mostly in terms of a manual car. Many people on the board want one, but less than 10% of licensed divers can drive one, let alone want one. Rare or undesirable? Add that the manual is slower. No manual/ DCT battle here, just a discussion of rarity translating to resale value.
Look how far we came from the E46 SMG in 10 years. The current DCT too can be improved upon and will eventually become dated.

But a good manual is timeless.
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      10-17-2016, 08:08 PM   #33
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2017 Mineral Grey, 6MT, No Exec.

I kinda figured that would not be a very popular build.
You are correct. Not sure of the exact number for 2017 but I would be surprised if more that 10 for MY2017. I thnk M& 2016 was 3 or 4. You can check my thread mentioned earlier.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805
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      10-17-2016, 09:28 PM   #34
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Mine will be MG, 6MT but with the exec package. Picking it up at the performance center on 11/4, maybe I'll see you around DC.
Nice, I will be picking mine up at the same place December 5.
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      10-18-2016, 01:58 PM   #35
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      10-19-2016, 03:02 AM   #36
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I realize you were posting this as a fun exercise, but you have to be careful how you apply statistics.

For example, stats may show that 31.5% of M2s are LBB, and 60% of M2s have DCT.

But this does not necessarily imply that 60% of LBB M2s have DCT.

For all we know, buyers who prefer LBB may disproportionately prefer 6MT (e.g., 80% versus 20%).

Likewise, AW buyers might have gone for the Exec Package at a lower rate than buyers of other colors.

Still, even with those caveats, a fun exercise! Thanks and regards. -scr
I think the real issue is that his color percentages add up to 111%, but I still appreciate the effort haha
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I've had my LBB MT car for almost 6 months now. Soon after I got it I had PPF fitted. The PPF company had another LBB DCT M2 in at the same time.
Since then I have yet to see another M2 in any colour out on the road.
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      10-19-2016, 10:02 AM   #38
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I think the real issue is that his color percentages add up to 111%, but I still appreciate the effort haha

Yea..I said approximate...based on partial info it seems that LBB is about 50% but looking at dealer inventory it seems the white/less expensive is the one they primary have, here is my guess which adds to 100 based upon everybody's comments and the other thread

LBB 49%

White 40%

Black 6%

Grey 5%

LOL...but is there a current estimate as of Oct of the total number of M2s made counting 2016/2017 models

any guesses?
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Yea..I said approximate...based on partial info it seems that LBB is about 50% but looking at dealer inventory it seems the white/less expensive is the one they primary have, here is my guess which adds to 100 based upon everybody's comments and the other thread

LBB 49%

White 40%

Black 6%

Grey 5%

LOL...but is there a current estimate as of Oct of the total number of M2s made counting 2016/2017 models

any guesses?
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Yea..I said approximate...based on partial info it seems that LBB is about 50% but looking at dealer inventory it seems the white/less expensive is the one they primary have, here is my guess which adds to 100 based upon everybody's comments and the other thread

LBB 49%

White 40%

Black 6%

Grey 5%

LOL...but is there a current estimate as of Oct of the total number of M2s made counting 2016/2017 models

any guesses?
Nice, that's really interesting. I have only seen LBB (2) and MG (1) in person. All three of those cars were ordered by customers who had allocations earlier than mine. The M2 in both colors is beautiful/angry/amazing in person (surprise, surprise).

I am still sticking with AW. I thought about MG, but white looks better under all conditions in my opinion. I had a dark gray GTI before my current white one, and white can get dirty and still show its lines well in comparison to dark gray. I will be keeping my GTI for winter, bad weather, drives on rough dirt roads in the mountains, but the M2 will be my daily and will definitely get a little dirty from time to time.
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      10-19-2016, 12:46 PM   #40
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I've had my LBB MT car for almost 6 months now. Soon after I got it I had PPF fitted. The PPF company had another LBB DCT M2 in at the same time.
Since then I have yet to see another M2 in any colour out on the road.
Assuming Durham as in Durham, NC? I'm in Raleigh
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      10-19-2016, 01:31 PM   #42
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Regardless of statistics, it may be more relevant to know how many M2s you already encountered on the road.

Personally I've not had the chance yet to greet a fellow M2 brother/sister on the road.
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Look how far we came from the E46 SMG in 10 years. The current DCT too can be improved upon and will eventually become dated.

But a good manual is timeless.
How right you are, I owned one of those e46 smg m3s, what a horrible tranny.

Timeless perhaps, but in 10 years maybe 2% of licensed drivers can drive it - your pool of eligible drivers is going to go down. I only know when and if I get one, when I trade it the transmission I don't have will be the desirable one!
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      10-19-2016, 03:43 PM   #44
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How right you are, I owned one of those e46 smg m3s, what a horrible tranny.

Timeless perhaps, but in 10 years maybe 2% of licensed drivers can drive it - your pool of eligible drivers is going to go down. I only know when and if I get one, when I trade it the transmission I don't have will be the desirable one!
I defo wont have the car in 10years so i couldn't really care and im guessing many people wont have the car either. The SMG box was bad out of the box, so it was never going to be any good. The modern DCT box on the other hand is excellent, so im sure it will be around for a while and will still be good in 10 years time. Manual boxes suffer synchro wear from missed gears, premature clutch wearing from dragging the clutch, Dual mass flywheel failures, oil change requirements, gear failure etc. A manual is only as good as the maintenance and driver its had.

FWIW - my friends Audi S4 Avant is 10 year old and has the auto box, he was booting it last night and it was great, not as fast as the M2 box but not as bad as the SMG, the shifts were really good.
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