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      03-28-2017, 09:33 AM   #287
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Guess I'm not the norm with carplay. For $300 I was pleasantly surprised that it worked as well as it does. All I really use it for though is pandora and integrated Nav. I'm not a fan of BMW Nav as I find it about as intuitive as the federal government. So anything to stay away from their nav is worth it to me.
That might be some of the issue - I'm a huge fan of Waze and if that worked instead of the Apple Maps, I might be able to try again.

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No it's not bad. Surprised you would consider it based on a "review" by someone who supposedly used it for less than a day.
When a call comes in during text reading, no more Bluetooth calls. It is a bug and serious enough that it was just about the final straw in using it (see other issue with only working with a few apps and there just was not any reason to keep trying).

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Find an attorney and file a class action suit against BMW for ripping us off. Then, the attorneys would get millions and each of us would get a $15 ITunes gift card for our troubles.

Seriously, BMWNA needs to hear from those who are disappointed. The last think a manufacturer wants is for its customers to be disappointed in their product based upon the failure of a vendor-supplied feature.
I think they monitor these boards - and when I bring my car in for the 1,200 mile service this Friday, I have it on my list to ask about an update. Their first iDrive was a POS and they refined it - I suspect both Apple and BMW will continue to make this better - and you are correct, at $300 it really is not that big of a deal. I think if they were charging $2,000 (and I had paid it), I would be slightly more ticked off
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      03-28-2017, 09:34 AM   #288
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i got apple carplay because my car was initially a dealer configured build and was already in production. i couldn't change it.

i figured, it will help with resale down the road.

sucks that it's so crappy. i wonder if this can be fixed in the future with a firmware update.
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      03-28-2017, 09:40 AM   #289
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Where's the guy, who was arguing with me about how absolutely amazing it is, when you need him?


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@dividebyzero happily dm's me to share forum data, based on a thread. A thread of people that don't know how to use the respective technology to their potential. Meaning, carplay has its strengths and weaknesses. But the strengths it has, idrive doesn't. Which adds value and makes it useful.

If people are complaining about how carplay has buggy text read back, then don't use it. Use other things that are better at doing that function. idrive sucks when you have to use other apps in conjunction with navigation. Which doesn't come close to carplays. Use the strengths of infotainment system. It's a no brainer really, instead of complaining about its weakness. For $300, how are you complaining the service carplay gives? You are buying a $53,000+ car. I'm sure if carplay was so bad, major automakers such as Toyota wouldn't be implementing them in their lineup.

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Perhaps you were trying to be funny, by listing a poll from a car enthusiast website, in the sub-forum for the most affordable
Maybe only smart people would understand that using data based on a thread in a forum is pretty stupid.


Trust me, automakers don't invest in millions into something that isn't useful! It's common sense so you can trust me!

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I know someone mentioned the text messaging features are bad but I've actually found it useful. I have it read me my texts and I make short replies with no problem. I wouldn't want to send a long complicated text, but short three or four word replies work great. Siri can be frustrating at times.
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I got it for Spotify integration and love it.

Very minimal options and I'd like for more apps to be integrated in the future. But this is software related so happy with the feature for the moment.

I hold my cars for a awhile so it's a value add for me.
So my 16 HEA car has no CarPlay but does the Spotify integration. I wonder if they changed it with later cars.
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Thanks for sharing, was thinking about retrofitting the new iDrive for Car Play in my 16. Guess I'll use that money for something else now.
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That is a why I avoided the Apple Play ($300) and the Exec Package ($1400).
I think this type of car is a drivers car. I cant believe that anyone is using the radio when the cars natural "sound track" offers so much stimulating music.

I have some early 911's and they have their speakers and audio completely removed and the silence, time to think, sounds are what makes driving the car enjoyable. IMHO

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No CarPlay problems here. Money well spent to me. I use Apple Music so that alone was worth the coin for me.
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That is a why I avoided the Apple Play ($300) and the Exec Package ($1400).
I think this type of car is a drivers car. I cant believe that anyone is using the radio when the cans natural "sound track" offers so much stimulating music.

I have some early 911's and they have their speakers and audio completely removed and the silence, time to think, sounds are what makes driving the car enjoyable. IMHO
The exhaust noise is piped in from the stereo on the M2. It is anything but natural. Does sound awesome however
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      03-28-2017, 11:26 AM   #296
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That might be some of the issue - I'm a huge fan of Waze and if that worked instead of the Apple Maps, I might be able to try again.


When a call comes in during text reading, no more Bluetooth calls. It is a bug and serious enough that it was just about the final straw in using it (see other issue with only working with a few apps and there just was not any reason to keep trying).


I think they monitor these boards - and when I bring my car in for the 1,200 mile service this Friday, I have it on my list to ask about an update. Their first iDrive was a POS and they refined it - I suspect both Apple and BMW will continue to make this better - and you are correct, at $300 it really is not that big of a deal. I think if they were charging $2,000 (and I had paid it), I would be slightly more ticked off

I love it and primarily use it for Maps, Music and Phones. I get out of the car and the music stops, meaning the music doesn't switch over to the phone and keeps on play. When I get in the music can start again without having to re-select everything or take it out of my pocket. There is one quirk where I get in and I have a radio station selected and shown but hear the music on my iPhone playing, but that's a BMW issue, I think. Still trying to figure out exactly when and why this happens.

I get people like Waze but for me I have not had a problem with Maps. What I don't like is how BMW chose to integrate the car controls to interact w/Maps, which works similar to how iDrive works in my 2008 X5 (whatever version that was).

Basically, for me it works. I think there are some bugs that I feel are related to BMW's implementation (maybe some Apple bugs) but damning the entire platform b/c of reading text (though it sounds like you have other issues you don't like) is like returning your M2 b/c it came with Conti instead of Michelin.


BTW after the initial handshake all Apple CarPlay including phone goes over Wifi. You may be having some funky BMW Connected Drive / Apple CarPlay issue. Not sure. http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...53&postcount=5

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That might be some of the issue - I'm a huge fan of Waze and if that worked instead of the Apple Maps, I might be able to try again.


When a call comes in during text reading, no more Bluetooth calls. It is a bug and serious enough that it was just about the final straw in using it (see other issue with only working with a few apps and there just was not any reason to keep trying).


I think they monitor these boards - and when I bring my car in for the 1,200 mile service this Friday, I have it on my list to ask about an update. Their first iDrive was a POS and they refined it - I suspect both Apple and BMW will continue to make this better - and you are correct, at $300 it really is not that big of a deal. I think if they were charging $2,000 (and I had paid it), I would be slightly more ticked off

I love it and primarily use it for Maps, Music and Phones. I get out of the car and the music stops, meaning the music doesn't switch over to the phone and keeps on play. When I get in the music can start again without having to re-select everything or take it out of my pocket. There is one quirk where I get in and I have a radio station selected and shown but hear the music on my iPhone playing, but that's a BMW issue, I think.

I get people like Waze but for me I have not had a problem with Maps. What I don't like is how BMW chose to integrate the car controls to interact w/Maps, which works similar to how iDrive works in my 2008 X5 (whatever version that was).

Basically, for me it works. I think there are some bug that are related to BMW' implementation (maybe some Apple bugs) but damning the entire platform b/c of reading text (though it sounds like you have other issues you don't like) is like returning your M2 b/c it came with Conti instead of Michelin.
The system is just glitchy and not sorted out IMHO. Like I said,I bet they will enhance and improve over time.

My dealer said most people shut it off within 5 days (told him he was crazy and then had to eat crow )

And I did refuse my car when it came with Contis . Ok, not 100% true, but the dealer did swap them out for me.
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talking about improving over time...

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/...r-with-ios-103
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I think the voice text feature works fine and i find it useful. i use the nav for route guidance instead of apple maps because it works better. I like that it works with spotify for music. It is annoying though that it can't access spotify on its own like apple music. If i dont open spotify on my phone first the car play will just freeze if i try to play a song through its system initially. I give it a 6 out of 10 and considering we Canadians had to pay $700 or something like that for it I would give it a not overly impressed at the moment and in hindsight I probably would have left it off the order sheet... but split milk, whatever.
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talking about improving over time...

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/...r-with-ios-103
Just updated my phone last night to iOS 10.3 last night and sure enough I have task switcher bar on side this morning. The up next in Apple Music is a nice feature as well.
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The exhaust noise is piped in from the stereo on the M2. It is anything but natural. Does sound awesome however

I know that. It is piped in on most cars these days. That is not the issue.

I am looking forward to the times when the windows are down, my foot is all the way down and the exhaust is screaming.
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I know that. It is piped in on most cars these days. That is not the issue.

I am looking forward to the times when the windows are down, my foot is all the way down and the exhaust is screaming.
Just don't remove the stereo and speakers
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I added Car Play to my build. The way I look at it, the software is still developing and there will be additional apps which support it as other car brands begin including Car Play. The tech in the car won't outlast my ownership. I might as well get the benefit as I upgrade my iPhone every few years.
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Just don't remove the stereo and speakers
Actually, you can code out or bypass ASD entirely, and then hear real engine noise anytime you want. If you want to hear more, there are all kinds of options for increased real noise out there that don't involve the speakers or stereo at all--like downpipes that don't trigger CELs, or full or partial exhaust systems.
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I think this type of car is a drivers car. I cant believe that anyone is using the radio when the cans natural "sound track" offers so much stimulating music.
Please, you probably don't drive the car that much.
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Please, you probably don't drive the car that much.
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If you are following, my car hasn't been delivered yet. So no, not driving the car at all. And I got it for my daughter as her 335D was just sold bc it stopped being reliable. But what are you inferring...my family drives a lot. We are car enthusiasts.
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Agreed. Do any of you know which settings will code out or disable carplay? I have too many weird issues with it and even when I just repair as bluetooth phone only it still doesn't function correctly after having paired as carplay.
Did you try to completely "Delete the device" from both phone and car?
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