[termigni]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

This may come as a shock to you, but DSC wasn't always in automobiles. Somehow the world survived. People bitching about not being able to turn off auto rev matching while DSC is on are literally saying, "I want to pretend I'm a good driver by not having the computer rev match for me, while secretly having the computer prevent me from crashing."

This may come as a shock to you, but 300+ HP weren't always in regular street cars. The level of performance in M2s were supercar figures only about 10-15 years ago. There are too many idiots on the road. I'd rather be on the road with my kids with cars that have the safety features ON next to me. I don't want any macho-manly-men crashing into me while they try to drive like they are on a race track.

If you really feel like the Man, take out the ABS, airbags, radio, navigation, and Xenon/Led headlights while you are at it. heck, just go buy a sports car from 1970s and call it a day.

[DivideBYZero]

Shots Fired!

[D CHOI]

Originally Posted by DivideBYZero

Shots Fired!

bang bang!!

[omasou]

Originally Posted by ksa

Very informative thread (minus the DSC nonsense).

I am in a similar boat I guess. Had the E92 M3 for about 9 months then I got rid of it and got the E70 X5M. Love the X5M and it has it's own advantages, however, can't help missing the sports car feeling. Thinking about picking up a M2 and just not sure if I will be making the right move or not. This thread helped somewhat and I am definitely open to other comments and suggestions.

FWIW, I kept my X5 4.8i (winter, fishing, home center) and bought the M2 (spring, summer, fall).

[heart_doctor]

Originally Posted by ksa

Very informative thread (minus the DSC nonsense).

I am in a similar boat I guess. Had the E92 M3 for about 9 months then I got rid of it and got the E70 X5M. Love the X5M and it has it's own advantages, however, can't help missing the sports car feeling. Thinking about picking up a M2 and just not sure if I will be making the right move or not. This thread helped somewhat and I am definitely open to other comments and suggestions.

My dealer had a M2 in LBB with the m Performance package and other carbon fiber bits on it come in a few days ago for another customer. They let me know it was in so I could come take a look and I was blown away by the car. So aggressive, the color was absolutely amazing. The carbon rear spoiler really accented the car nicely. I was also impressed with the interior given all the bad press its received. It's really nice. Coming from a e92 m3 with extended leather and carbon fiber leather trim I thought it was on par with my previous car. Maybe not as nice material wise but still amazing.

I basically submitted an order for an identical build but may add the carbon fiber rear diffuser and possibly the mirror caps. I am also adding the carbon fiber gear shifter for the DCT transmission (outgoing car was a 6MT). I'm waiting for a build number but I get the next allocation when it come up, probably end of the month with delivery by spring.

When I get the car I'll post my thoughts comparing it to my previous car. Mind you I'm not a track guy, I use this as my summer/warm weather drive to work car which consists of about 2 to 4 hours in the car per day driving on twisty back roads so for me what matters is 60mph and less.

I can't wait!!!

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by heart_doctor

Well went to the dealer today and they just got in a LBB M2 with M Performance package, executive package and other carbon fiber goodies. Looked gorgeous. LBB for me please!

Very nice you will enjoy it a lot, i would recommend you get the MPE exhaust as well i wont lie its pricey however it really bumps up the noise and crackles its very good, of course other exhausts out there are better however with the MPE you keep the car unmodified for insurance purposes at least.

[rouxeny]

Originally Posted by heart_doctor

My dealer had a M2 in LBB with the m Performance package and other carbon fiber bits on it come in a few days ago for another customer. They let me know it was in so I could come take a look and I was blown away by the car. So aggressive, the color was absolutely amazing. The carbon rear spoiler really accented the car nicely. I was also impressed with the interior given all the bad press its received. It's really nice. Coming from a e92 m3 with extended leather and carbon fiber leather trim I thought it was on par with my previous car. Maybe not as nice material wise but still amazing.

I basically submitted an order for an identical build but may add the carbon fiber rear diffuser and possibly the mirror caps. I am also adding the carbon fiber gear shifter for the DCT transmission (outgoing car was a 6MT). I'm waiting for a build number but I get the next allocation when it come up, probably end of the month with delivery by spring.

When I get the car I'll post my thoughts comparing it to my previous car. Mind you I'm not a track guy, I use this as my summer/warm weather drive to work car which consists of about 2 to 4 hours in the car per day driving on twisty back roads so for me what matters is 60mph and less.

I can't wait!!!

2-4 hrs of driving a day for work? That's a lot!

[heart_doctor]

Originally Posted by rouxeny

2-4 hrs of driving a day for work? That's a lot!

Yep. We provide care in underserved areas (rural America). Involves lots of driving ....

[ksa]

I ended up going with a 2016 M3 instead. Figured wouldn't mind the back doors/seats. Plus fell in love with the Yas Marina Blue colour.

[Bluedoor]

I loved my '09 E90 DCT but it was difficult to enjoy legally; found it overwhelmed the road. Low torque made it necessary to wind the beautiful V8 up to feel the car truly breath. 30 mph went to 100 mph in a moment. It was also the problem with the car as a high mileage daily driver.

Ordered the M2 with a hope that the engine and chassis is more accessible within the reasonable limits of the ordinary road. Updated electronics are a plus..along with the choice of the 6MT. The DCT has definitely developed to out perform the manual transmission but it lacks the intrinsic soul of The 6MT. Reasonably priced is a bonus!!

[MachinesWithSouls]

For what it's worth, I have an e92 and have driven an M2.

I think the M3 is a better car for enjoying the drive, but the M2 is a better track car. The M3 is more special for its high-revving engine and better steering feel IMHO.

I'd love to have both!

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by ksa

.........I am definitely open to other comments and suggestions.

Was going to M2 from E9x M3...then...
Not exactly this one, but, starting at 53,900, why not?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by fuddman

Was going to M2 from E9x M3...then...
Not exactly this one, but, starting at 53,900, why not?

That looks like it belongs in Cars 3

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by fuddman

Was going to M2 from E9x M3...then...
Not exactly this one, but, starting at 53,900, why not?

Because flat 4 turbo. Yeah it's fast around a track and is supposedly a responsive engine, but I'd take a 981 any day over the 718.

[ksa]

Originally Posted by fuddman

Was going to M2 from E9x M3...then...
Not exactly this one, but, starting at 53,900, why not?

It's sweet, but I ended up going for a F80 M3 instead.

[2M]

I have an E92 328 w/ the M2. Totally different from your M3 , but when I get in the 328 I love how raw the steering is. I feel like the E92 has a better turning radius than the M2 as well. I miss the E92 cupholders btw.

[2M]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

Yes, I drive with it totally off all the time. Somehow, I've made it 19k miles without crashing (and 74k miles in my previous bmw before another driver hit me). I am sure I have better driving weather than you do in the Netherlands though, I live in Kentucky and do not drive the car in the winter.

It is really cracking me up that you guys think driving a docile M2 with DSC off is a death wish. I would love to see you guys drive an old GT2 or Viper! Everyone who owned a pre 2000 sports car must have a death wish!

I have driven cars without DSC, you have to be aware of the situations and conditions, its not rocket science, but BMW has some of the best traction control systems in the industry, Its illogical to daily your car without DSC, it will only benefit you, even if you are a F1 driver.

[Ian ///M]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

That looks like it belongs in Cars 3