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      01-10-2020, 11:08 PM   #1233
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How can I get one with no mark up here in SoCal?
I'm wondering if BMW has the ability to eliminate ADM by taking confirmed orders. In that instance the dealership isn't really buying the car.
I think that's what they are doing with the 2020 Mini GP. Orders are being placed directly with MiniNA with the first option for current GP1 or GP2 owners.
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How can I get one with no mark up here in SoCal?
So Cal? Somewhat unlikely. Might want to try Murrieta, when I got my car I got it for MSRP.

Other options are probably out of state.
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      01-11-2020, 05:00 PM   #1235
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Any chance of getting a M2CS category in the main M2 section? I see the CS order threads in the M2 comp category and the the long time running threads in this section. Might be time to consolidate.
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Any chance of getting a M2CS category in the main M2 section? I see the CS order threads in the M2 comp category and the the long time running threads in this section. Might be time to consolidate.
Feel free to list me the threads you're referencing and I'll look into it.

About a dedicated M2 CS section: also note the remarks of moderator mkoesel regarding a similar request:
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OT, but mkoesel any chance us CS owners (or soon-to-be ) can get our own M3/4CS subforum like the M4 GTS?
That would be up to forum admin. My personal thoughts are that the CS is similar enough to the rest of the lineup that a separate forum is unnecessary. Competition models have never had their own forum, and the CS could arguably be described as "ZCP Stage II".
Making multiple forums for different trim levels of the same car is a slippery slope. Yes, the M2C got its own forum, but that car actually replaced the original M2 completely so that made some sense. And the M4 GTS forum serves as a place to talk about its unique water injected engine, suspension, etc.
And what about the new 330i and M340i? They are no more similar to one another than an M3 Competition and M3 CS are (arguably less so, in fact). If the CS gets a forum, then you have to oblige M340i owners with their own forum too. Next thing, someone wants a "ZTP" specific forum, or an M Sport package forum, and who knows what else.
Just my 2 cents.
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Feel free to list me the threads you're referencing and I'll look into it.

About a dedicated M2 CS section: also note the remarks of moderator mkoesel regarding a similar request:
I'll copy and paste them in a bit.
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      01-11-2020, 07:42 PM   #1238
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I think your request speaks to the heart of the entire M2C versus M2CS debate. . . proponents of the latter consider it to be significantly different than the M2C. The detractors do not.

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I'll copy and paste them in a bit.
Thanks.

As explained in my previous comment, still keeping the M2 CS threads for the moment in the general M2 section.
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https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/yaris/201932/toyota-gr-yaris-revealed-in-full-return-of-the-homologation-special

I know it’s not a competitor to the M2 CS but anyone who was pining after a CSL and looking for something fun, this little Yaris has more CSL dna that the CS. Estimated UK price of £30k. Not exactly cheap but when you factor in the CS is likely to depreciate that amount in the first 12 months it starts looking like a bargain.
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https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/yaris/201932/toyota-gr-yaris-revealed-in-full-return-of-the-homologation-special

I know it’s not a competitor to the M2 CS but anyone who was pining after a CSL and looking for something fun, this little Yaris has more CSL dna that the CS. Estimated UK price of £30k. Not exactly cheap but when you factor in the CS is likely to depreciate that amount in the first 12 months it starts looking like a bargain.
That thing is going to be a riot. I wonder if they are coming to US. Get both
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Doesn't look like it at the moment but there is a petition going to possibly change that:

https://www.change.org/p/toyota-cana...canada-and-usa

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That thing is going to be a riot. I wonder if they are coming to US. Get both
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Apologies, I am sure this may have been mentioned before. But without trawling through a what is now a lengthy and diversified thread I was wondering if there has been an 'official' production number for the M2CS. I seem to recall a figure of 2200 units globally, but am not sure as to the origin of this number and can't recall where I saw it.
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Apologies, I am sure this may have been mentioned before. But without trawling through a what is now a lengthy and diversified thread I was wondering if there has been an 'official' production number for the M2CS. I seem to recall a figure of 2200 units globally, but am not sure as to the origin of this number and can't recall where I saw it.
The 2,200 number was on a dealer bulletin from last summer and has been confirmed by all the news outlets. Have you gone ahead and placed an order?
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The 2,200 number was on a dealer bulletin from last summer and has been confirmed by all the news outlets. Have you gone ahead and placed an order?
I have a UK allocation and have until Friday to decide whether to confirm an order. That was the basis of my query. I remember seeing that figure somewhere and was unsure as to whether it was speculative or something with more credibility.
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TRL gave the indication that each UK dealership was being allocated 2 cars (150 dealers = 300 cars). This morning I called to get my deposit back (placed back in Feb 2016!) and was told there will be 50 UK cars which sounds more believable. I'll take back what I said about crazy depreciation if there's only 50 cars but probably makes your decision a little more tricky

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I have a UK allocation and have until Friday to decide whether to confirm an order. That was the basis of my query. I remember seeing that figure somewhere and was unsure as to whether it was speculative or something with more credibility.
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TRL gave the indication that each UK dealership was being allocated 2 cars (150 dealers = 300 cars). This morning I called to get my deposit back (placed back in Feb 2016!) and was told there will be 50 UK cars which sounds more believable. I'll take back what I said about crazy depreciation if there's only 50 cars but probably makes your decision a little more tricky

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I have a UK allocation and have until Friday to decide whether to confirm an order. That was the basis of my query. I remember seeing that figure somewhere and was unsure as to whether it was speculative or something with more credibility.
Curious to hear why you changed your mind? I'm actually in the same boat haha
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TRL gave the indication that each UK dealership was being allocated 2 cars (150 dealers = 300 cars). This morning I called to get my deposit back (placed back in Feb 2016!) and was told there will be 50 UK cars which sounds more believable. I'll take back what I said about crazy depreciation if there's only 50 cars but probably makes your decision a little more tricky
50 UK cars, the value will definitely hold steady!
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TRL gave the indication that each UK dealership was being allocated 2 cars (150 dealers = 300 cars). This morning I called to get my deposit back (placed back in Feb 2016!) and was told there will be 50 UK cars which sounds more believable. I'll take back what I said about crazy depreciation if there's only 50 cars but probably makes your decision a little more tricky
We're going to visit the dealership tomorrow. At the moment we're favouring going ahead.
If you don't mind me asking, what was behind you getting your deposit back at this late stage, especially since you placed it prior to the launch of the OG M2?!
On the other hand, I completely understand if you do not wish to disclose that.
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My information is that some UK dealerships got no cars, and some got only 1.

What is the source of the 50 figure?

I have no idea what UK total allocation is though. 50 sounds too low though, given that UK buys a high proportion of M cars (3rd largest global market).

Based on that it would be reasonable to expect about 200-300 cars for UK.
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My information is that some UK dealerships got no cars, and some got only 1.

What is the source of the 50 figure?

I have no idea what UK total allocation is though. 50 sounds too low though, given that UK buys a high proportion of M cars (3rd largest global market).

Based on that it would be reasonable to expect about 200-300 cars for UK.
Agreed!

No chance it is only 50 in the UK
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Smart move finally by BMW UK. They got burned and IMO damaged the brand rep of the 'CS' label with the M3/4. Too many allocations not taken up was not good for residuals.

If it's 50 car won't be sitting on lots with 33% discount to just over Competition prices.

Return to form, and I guess lessons learned, good stuff.
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TRL gave the indication that each UK dealership was being allocated 2 cars (150 dealers = 300 cars). This morning I called to get my deposit back (placed back in Feb 2016!) and was told there will be 50 UK cars which sounds more believable. I'll take back what I said about crazy depreciation if there's only 50 cars but probably makes your decision a little more tricky

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I have a UK allocation and have until Friday to decide whether to confirm an order. That was the basis of my query. I remember seeing that figure somewhere and was unsure as to whether it was speculative or something with more credibility.
Take what TRL says with a pinch of salt. There are 104 BMW M2CS (confirmed by BMW UK for me yesterday) for the UK market and there was just over 1500 customers that submitted their intent to buy one. Some dealers got ZERO allocations including some big dealers.

Im happy I got an allocation and Im going ahead.
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My information is that some UK dealerships got no cars, and some got only 1.

What is the source of the 50 figure?

I have no idea what UK total allocation is though. 50 sounds too low though, given that UK buys a high proportion of M cars (3rd largest global market).

Based on that it would be reasonable to expect about 200-300 cars for UK.
This exactly, some dealer got ZERO M2CS. Total number of BMW M2CS's allocated for the UK is 104. I had it confirmed by BMW UK yesterday.
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