[DrDetroit67]

Haven't got my car yet, delayed again, but read last evening that the 2021 ECU have been locked so you can't tune?? am REALLY hoping that is not the case but wanted to check, tried to search forms for it but did not come up with anything...... one the main reasons I bought this car was that it's supposed to be so easy to tune at some point in the future, bimmercode especially looks dead easy etc.

[HFW003]

Yes it will be locked, you can still bench unlock though.

[dmcM2C]

Pretty sure cars built after June of last year have a new Bosch ecu that is "uncrackable" and I believe it hasn't been cracked as of this point in time. There's a large thread in the s55 engine sub section of the m2 forums that is probably more up to date.

[DrDetroit67]

OK< thanks and will try another search but yikes, have to give this some real thought then, principal reason I ordered this car was supposedly how easy it was to tune ie: https://bimmercode.app/cars/bmw/2-series-m2/f22/

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by DrDetroit67

OK< thanks and will try another search but yikes, have to give this some real thought then, principal reason I ordered this car was supposedly how easy it was to tune ie: https://bimmercode.app/cars/bmw/2-series-m2/f22/

Bimmercode is not a tune my friend, it’s for coding.

You will still be able to code it.

[DrDetroit67]

Originally Posted by HFW003

Bimmercode is not a tune my friend, it’s for coding.

You will still be able to code it.

a-hah! thank you... rookie mistake......not to be obtuse but what's the key differences, tune includes hardware and code is just a an ECU Flash or something?

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by DrDetroit67

a-hah! thank you... rookie mistake......not be obtuse but what's the key differences, tune includes hardware and code is just a an ECU Flash or something?

Simply, a tune adjusts the performance of the car and coding adjusts pre existing options in the cars modules.

For example, using Bimmercode you can do things like turn off seat belt alarm, adjust the number of blinks on your blinkers, change the type of Equalizer parameters for your stereo and so on, all of which are already sitting in the cars modules.

[Enabled]

If the ecu is dated as 07/2020 or newer it is completely locked against tuning, via obd or on bench.

[DrDetroit67]

Originally Posted by HFW003

Simply, a tune adjusts the performance of the car and coding adjusts pre existing options in the cars modules.

For example, using Bimmercode you can do things like turn off seat belt alarm, adjust the number of blinks on your blinkers, change the type of Equalizer parameters for your stereo and so on, all of which are already sitting in the cars modules.

DOH! ok, clearly I have no idea what the Eff i'm talking about, truly thought the bimmercode provided significant performance increases, gotta do some more research, thanks for the intel......and nice bike!!

[DrDetroit67]

Originally Posted by Enabled

If the ecu is dated as 07/2020 or newer it is completely locked against tuning, via obd or on bench.

OK, so really not even possible to get the 80 or so plus HP I see talked about ??

[Ratcher]

You can increase power using a piggy back solution. JB4, AC Schnitzer or so.
ECU tune from mid 06/2020 as of today not possible.

[AJAXF1]

I'm confident they will crack it by the time my B2B warranty expires in 2024. Then it's time for a crank hub swap and a tune. Keep your warranty as long as possible for anything over 50k is my motto.

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by DrDetroit67

DOH! ok, clearly I have no idea what the Eff i'm talking about, truly thought the bimmercode provided significant performance increases, gotta do some more research, thanks for the intel......and nice bike!!

All good mate!

That’s an old bike, this is the latest Panigale V4S

[DrDetroit67]

very nice! track car, track bike

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by HFW003

All good mate!

That’s an old bike, this is the latest Panigale V4S

Nice planter sorry redoing my hardscaping and landscaping

[akkando]

If you'd like to tune the car, I suggest you buy a used one made before June 2020.

[M2_MEDUSA]

For now yes it's locked. But will be cracked sooner rather than later due to the S58 having the same security as us late model S55 guys. So maybe another year? But you can do things such as piggy backs and JB4. I'm probably gonna go BMS stage 1

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by HFW003

All good mate!

That’s an old bike, this is the latest Panigale V4S

Holy crap, I'm just in love with that picture. So much win.

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

Holy crap, I'm just in love with that picture. So much win.

Thanks mate, front view

[AUSf22]

To summarize

- Tuning = No, not bench unlockable either at the moment for the newest ECU's
- Coding = Yes

[Davil]

Originally Posted by AUSf22

To summarize

- Tuning = No, not bench unlockable either at the moment for the newest ECU's
- Coding = Yes

I had my other (old) BMW in for a service today. The guys at the shop are pretty convinced that the lock is soon to be cracked. Not that I have any real interest in getting my M2 tuned as I think it's more than fast enough but for those interested there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

[DrDetroit67]

all good stuff, thanks for the input, feeling a little better about it now, no plans to tune this year, but did want the option, one of the main reasons I decided on this car was the ease of bringing it up to what it was attuned from.....