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Perhaps if OP used the term diminished rather than worthless, he/she wouldn't be getting (rightfully so) lambasted. Calling the car worthless is like calling it a piece of shit.
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Man, you got to admit, it still isn't the most tactful thing to say. You were asking about a drop in price, but were referring to it as if it would drop to near a near worthless price. Which is simply not true.
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It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with the poster's clarity. Nuanced comments – or assuming people will read between the lines or understand a writer's sense of humor – just don't work on the Internet. And, as you've pointed out, getting personal doesn't help credibility: "I forgot to add a picture with better explanation for the less bright ones..." or "are you all so insecure about your selves? [sic]" or "anyway, by ignoring the idiotic answers..."
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FWIW, I knew what OP meant, that is what "XXX" are for. Kind of a sarcasm font if you will.
IMHO, and if history repeats, than the S55 will be more sought after. I get the argument that the N55 sounds better, but more power/torque will always trump sound. Case in point. A friend of mine just got out of his lease of a Maseratti Grand Tourismo and wanted a 911 GTS. He was sooo worried about the sound, because the Maser is arguably one of the best sounding cars out there. So he was convinced he would go with a used 991.1 (N/A) and not the 991.2 (turbo) because the N/A at least still sounds half way decent. Well, he ended up getting the turbo, because torque is addicting and sound can be addressed with a muffler....typically. In the case of N55 vs S55, it's not like BMW is going from a 6 to a 4 cylinder, as Porsche did on the 718. Instead they are giving us a much more sophisticated engine. I expect the S55 Comp Pkg M2 to be the car to have down the road, but not to the point where the N55's are all that far behind in value. It's not as big of a difference as a S52 to and S54 was in the Z3M. Time will tell. What I do think will happen in the short term, for more than one reason, is that the used prices on the 2016-2018's will adjust a bit, as they are too optimistic in many cases. Still the 1M syndrome or wishful thinking on the sellers behalf. |
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It's so funny - and speaking about both sides here - honestly, this is one of the best forums I've been on. Some really fantastic people on here, and really very little to no riff-raff. It's pretty spectacular.
Once in a while though, it seems like everyone decides (again, on both sides) that they want to be pedantic, and take everything said as literal, and it devolves into this. Yes, people may have worded things in a way that sounded different than the thought they intended to convey, and yes people may have taken things differently than they read it simply because they're in a bad mood and want to argue, or just feel very strongly about a point, etc. At the end of the day, guys, we're in this together, and we're a great crew. Try and hear out the other party. Sure, most people didn't buy the car as an investment - though I'm sure that some expected it to appreciate, like the 1M. Things do happen, though, and it's nice to be in a car that holds its value a bit better than most, for when those situations arise. Arguing won't do a damn thing about it, though. Get out there and make sure that you get enough smiles per gallon to make it worth your money. |
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The n55 is an open deck. Just from that i wouldn't want to buy a used m2 with an n55 knowing that theres a version with the s55.
Prices are already dropping on the 2018s. Even the lease rates are down. People who already have the n55 m2 already had the time to enjoy the heck out of it. I dont know anyone who precalculated a depreciation budget before purchasing the m2. I dont think many people want to sell the car and the ones who do probably already knew that they wouldnt get much for it. |
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03-22-2018, 01:28 PM | #102 |
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A farmer will tell you that (eco-friendly) fertilizers are valuable assets for his/her business.
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As a prospective buyer I'm holding off until the S55 release because I do think the N55 equipped cars will take a pretty big hit. Might have started already as I've watched asking prices dip recently into the high $40k range. Such a quick update of the engine makes it seem as though BMW knows they goofed using the N55 to begin with and is fixing the "mistake". This likely isn't the case, but the thought will always be there. I still may end up opting for the S55 despite the price disparity between the two, I really like the way it behaves in the M3.
I also think people who know these markets are starting to sell their M2s while the value is there. |
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High-quality seat time whilst piling on the miles. Actually, the kind of 'car value depreciation' that enthusiasts don't mind sacrificing as quid pro quo for enjoying life the way you like/love.
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i on the other hand have just invested in an Unregistered 2017/01 build date Grey M2 Pre LCI, i won't drive it and ill keep it parked until i get a good offer, people think that just because an S55 engine coming is going to make prices go down, well i dont know about you americans but with the way the EU is ruining cars with particles and emissions i will make a good couple thousand euros on it, by 2020 there will be so many rules in play it will be difficult for bmw in europe to justify making a car which is completely against what the EU is trying to do, therefore making older models more desirable. but as others have stated, this thread is pointless.
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03-22-2018, 07:52 PM | #108 |
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To OP: The N55 M2s will decrease in value as I think we all know. I think the rate is going to seem steep initially due to 2 years of backorders and many cars sold over MSRP that have held value, but will correct downward this summer/fall. The S55 M2 will be the "better" car, but not to all buyers. The N55 M2, especially the LCI will be cherished by many and will not have value or desireability fall off a cliff, but will decline like any other M car. The S55 cars will have a couple years where they seem to be holding strong value and then they will do the same.
There is nothing terribly special about the value or worth of the N55 M2 but also nothing to suggest it will become forgotten. It is a very good car and currently BMW's best driver's car. |
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The prices on M2s will not go in the tank; they will stand on their own as fine vehicles, regardless of what comes next. In fact, the first M2s that were priced just over $50K should be selling in the high $40s - that's a very solid resale level for cars that are almost four model years old. Sales of M2s have been a little slow the last few months - just like they have for all high-performance vehicles - because of winter. It happens every year. How about if everyone who owns an M2 continues to enjoy it, and the people who don't own one move on? And if you're moving on to an M2 with the S55, enjoy! |
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