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      01-07-2019, 07:52 PM   #221
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Why would you have to give them a "core" deposit if they already got paid by your insurance company for new headlights? Technically, the old headlights belong to the insurance company.

What it sounds like is that there are getting paid to replace the whole pair of headlights and all its related parts. They could probably salvage most of old headlight (modules, bulbs, etc), maybe even the whole light on one side and just pocket the money.

By you asking back for it, it would force them to 'actually' purchase everything they were paid for.. So the 'core' charge is bullcrap, as they are just trying to dissuade you from messing with their master plan.

There is no such thing as a core charge for headlights; I've been paid $7,000 by my insurance company for some water-filled headlights and the modules. Only needed to purchase like half the parts that they paid me for. I profited about $3,000 in the end. And sold old lights for $900.
Insurance didn't cover it... I am paying for the repairs.
Ok, so same question, you own them outright, the new and old ones, why do you have to pay a core if you want them back for an experiment?
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Ok, so same question, you own them outright, the new and old ones, why do you have to pay a core if you want them back for an experiment?
I dunno, he just said it was a $400 core deposit that I had to pay if I wanted it back. (this is a BMW dealer I'm talking about too) I assumed he ships my headlight back to whoever and they give him the money back. I don't have my car back yet so I dunno what I'll be charged, but the estimate shows over $1000 for the headlight (which is the regular price for it I've seen)
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Yeah that sounds like BS. It’s your headlight, you own it. Tell them to give it back to you.
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So, I have a 2018 LCI w/ adaptive headlights that was in an accident and the headlight was cracked. The car is still at the dealer getting repaired, but I went to the dealer just now to ask if I can have the headlight. He said he has to check if there is a core deposit on it, if not I can have it. I asked if he could check that now so I could take it today, but for some reason it has to wait until my car is finished. So I'll try to get my headlight and dissect it so we know what's inside of a USA model.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to verify anything. The dealership threw out the headlight. Said that it basically disintegrated when they pulled it from the car and threw it out before I asked for it.
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Very common on M2LCI due to the way allocations are handled. I should have paid closer attention to the M2 Comp reference. That particular car was US Conformity Certification car #2 and did not have KAFAS.



It's a very ambiguous notation for general production installation (doesn't show when market filters applied). Will know a little more after Monday update.

I just picked up a M2C with late 11.2018 production. Any chance I have the headlights?

I noticed the Valeo headlights on mine have reference to EU & RoW for high beam, but it is SAE spec..
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I just picked up a M2C with late 11.2018 production. Any chance I have the headlights?

I noticed the Valeo headlights on mine have reference to EU & RoW for high beam, but it is SAE spec..
You can look through the lens of your headlights. If you see 3 LEDs then you don't have the Euro spec headlights. I activated Variable Light Distribution and Anti-Dazzle through coding on my US spec car. The Anti-Dazzle is really cool the headlights swivel around and shine far ahead along the side of the road. Unfortunately at times the lights would shine too high into the rear view mirrors of cars in front of me so I decoded Anti-Dazzle and kept VLD.
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You can look through the lens of your headlights. If you see 3 LEDs then you don't have the Euro spec headlights. I activated Variable Light Distribution and Anti-Dazzle through coding on my US spec car. The Anti-Dazzle is really cool the headlights swivel around and shine far ahead along the side of the road. Unfortunately at times the lights would shine too high into the rear view mirrors of cars in front of me so I decoded Anti-Dazzle and kept VLD.
Couldn't see, it's near impossible to look through the projector lens and see the LED's
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If you have a US spec vehicle/headlights, it should say "US DOT" somewhere on backing label.

That's a certification requirement and the actual reason why there are difference part numbers between the US and the rest of the world's LED Adaptive headlights .

The actual hardware itself are the same between the two regions, the only thing that separates them is certification label and software decoding of the VLD, GFHB, and also LHD or RHD.

I understand this claim contradicts my previous statements but I was going off incorrect information from some folks here who claim to be 'insiders.'

However, on my own personal research have confirm that headlights are the same, you just need to someone to properly code in the mentioned features. The US spec headlight have 4 LEDs behind each projector as the ROW (confirmed).

However, the LCI coding for VLD & GFHB is much more intricate than the Pre-LCI (Xenon) and requires a lot more changes that is scattered on this forum.

https://motodemic.com/dot-ece-explained/

Below, count four LED diodes per projector, same as the US spec headlights.
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I just picked up a M2C with late 11.2018 production. Any chance I have the headlights?

I noticed the Valeo headlights on mine have reference to EU & RoW for high beam, but it is SAE spec..
You can look through the lens of your headlights. If you see 3 LEDs then you don't have the Euro spec headlights.
I was at local (US) dealer recently and I counted 4 LED diodes in a M2 LCI headlight projector.

Where did you confirm that it's actually 3 for the US spec vehicles?
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I was at local (US) dealer recently and I counted 4 LED diodes in a M2 LCI headlight projector.

Where did you confirm that it's actually 3 for the US spec vehicles?
Since I own a 2019 M2C with Executive package, I took a picture of the driver side headlight with my DSLR and used exposure compensation at -3 stops. I took the photo at an angle in order to have the least distortion of the LEDs.
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      03-21-2019, 11:34 AM   #231
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I was at local (US) dealer recently and I counted 4 LED diodes in a M2 LCI headlight projector.

Where did you confirm that it's actually 3 for the US spec vehicles?
Since I own a 2019 M2C with Executive package, I took a picture with my DSLR and used exposure compensation at -3 stops.
Yes, from that photo, I see two on the bottom and one one the top.

That weird; I counted 4 at a local dealer. Two on top, two on the bottom on a 2018 M2, in NJ.

Two Horizontally and two vertically. Hmm.. I'll try to get a photo myself..
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Since I own a 2019 M2C with Executive package, I took a picture of the driver side headlight with my DSLR and used exposure compensation at -3 stops.
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Yes, from that photo, I see two on the bottom and one one the top.

That weird; I counted 4 at a local dealer. Two on top, two on the bottom on a 2018 M2, in NJ.

Two Horizontally and two vertically. Hmm.. I'll try to get a photo myself..
Can one of you potentially circle in the photo where the diodes are that you're looking at?
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This label is the only one I could find on the LED light housing without hacking it apart.
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Where do you see LEDs? I don't see any.
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Where do you see LEDs? I don't see any.
Those three dots are the LEDs. they are extremely bright so as I said I reduced the light with my camera exposure. They are a little bit distorted because of the lens in front of them.
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Those three dots are the LEDs. they are extremely bright so as I said I reduced the light with my camera exposure. They are a little bit distorted because of the lens in front of them.
Again, do you mind circling where you're looking?
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Do you know exactly what I need to do to code VLD on my LCI? I know it's more intricate
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Do you know exactly what I need to do to code VLD on my LCI? I know it's more intricate


There is a PDF floating around that has all the changes require for the F30 but it's long and requires Esys level coding to access the FLE module.

I have yet to see a specific manual to code the M2's LEDs but since it uses the same control module as the F30, so much of the same detail changes are required.

If I find the cheat seat, I'll repost it.
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Hi,
I am trying to help a friend retrofitting LED headlights in a pre-LCI F01, replaced FRM and ZGW, but the car has KAFAS1.
Any ideas what to FDL code on the FRM, in order for HBA (High Beam Assist) to work, since it requires KAFAS2?
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Here you go..
Those aren't the diodes, that's glare / reflections off the projector lens. That car's headlights aren't on, just the DRLs.
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Here you go..
Those aren't the diodes, that's glare / reflections off the projector lens. That car's headlights aren't on, just the DRLs.
They are..

Forward the video below to 6:37, you'll see them.

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