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      02-03-2017, 06:17 PM   #1
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Stock M2 Wheel Alignment Specifications

Can someone help post the original M2 wheel alignment settings?
I'm going to get mine aligned and the workshop's system don't have the specs.

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Can someone help post the original M2 wheel alignment settings?
I'm going to get mine aligned and the workshop's system don't have the specs.

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Look at the target numbers.. my before and after was because I lowered but the target are the stock specs..
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Look at the target numbers.. my before and after was because I lowered but the target are the stock specs..
Why didn't they fix the rear camber?
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Look at the target numbers.. my before and after was because I lowered but the target are the stock specs..
Why didn't they fix the rear camber?
Good question.. the question is why does it show green if it should have been put of range :

Regardless I am not sure our cars from factory have Camber adjustment. Could be why no adjustment was made.

I am not really worried about camber as much as Toe.. toe being off ears your tires pretty fast..

I ran my track car on the road running -2.5 and never had issues since I had Toe in check.
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Good question.. the question is why does it show green if it should have been put of range :

Regardless I am not sure our cars from factory have Camber adjustment. Could be why no adjustment was made.

I am not really worried about camber as much as Toe.. toe being off ears your tires pretty fast..

I ran my track car on the road running -2.5 and never had issues since I had Toe in check.
Rear camber is adjustable if I'm not mistaken. Its not the camber in itself I reacted to but the difference between L/R. But someone with more knowledge about this might just tell me the difference is to small anyway to cause any harm for driving characteristics.
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Good question.. the question is why does it show green if it should have been put of range :

Regardless I am not sure our cars from factory have Camber adjustment. Could be why no adjustment was made.

I am not really worried about camber as much as Toe.. toe being off ears your tires pretty fast..

I ran my track car on the road running -2.5 and never had issues since I had Toe in check.
Rear camber is adjustable if I'm not mistaken. Its not the camber in itself I reacted to but the difference between L/R. But someone with more knowledge about this might just tell me the difference is to small anyway to cause any harm for driving characteristics.
I see what you mean. Well at least the car felt very balanced during the event I ran it at. Never felt unsettled under hard cornering.
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Can someone help post the original M2 wheel alignment settings?
I'm going to get mine aligned and the workshop's system don't have the specs.

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Look at the target numbers.. my before and after was because I lowered but the target are the stock specs..
Hello Ban,

Thanks for sharing your alignment / camber settings. Did you notice much difference in the handling and tire wear post adjustment on your M2.

My 2018 M2 is 3weeks old and his 800km in the clock. Thought of getting my alignment/camber checked and adjusted.
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Can someone help post the original M2 wheel alignment settings?
I'm going to get mine aligned and the workshop's system don't have the specs.

Thanks!
Look at the target numbers.. my before and after was because I lowered but the target are the stock specs..
Hello Ban,

Thanks for sharing your alignment / camber settings. Did you notice much difference in the handling and tire wear post adjustment on your M2.

My 2018 M2 is 3weeks old and his 800km in the clock. Thought of getting my alignment/camber checked and adjusted.
I took mine in right after the Eibach springs were installed. After suspension install you really should get the car aligned to ensure it's within specs. I am 14k miles into the car and the MPSS still have meat on them after Autocross and Full Track events. Even wear on all of them.

At your mileage your car most likely is within factory specs. Never hurts to check it if you notice abnormal tire wear. But you should be good.
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Why didn't they fix the rear camber?
Because it is within spec. The target setting is in degrees and minutes rather than decimal degrees, so the target setting is -1 and 5/6th degrees with a tolerance of 1/3rd of a degree (so up to -2 and 1/6th degrees).

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Can someone help post the original M2 wheel alignment settings?
I'm going to get mine aligned and the workshop's system don't have the specs.

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Look at the target numbers.. my before and after was because I lowered but the target are the stock specs..
Hello Ban,

Thanks for sharing your alignment / camber settings. Did you notice much difference in the handling and tire wear post adjustment on your M2.

My 2018 M2 is 3weeks old and his 800km in the clock. Thought of getting my alignment/camber checked and adjusted.
I took mine in right after the Eibach springs were installed. After suspension install you really should get the car aligned to ensure it's within specs. I am 14k miles into the car and the MPSS still have meat on them after Autocross and Full Track events. Even wear on all of them.

At your mileage your car most likely is within factory specs. Never hurts to check it if you notice abnormal tire wear. But you should be good.
Thank you for the advice my friend.
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Why didn't they fix the rear camber?
This looks like exactly what you get at the typical $60-80 alignment shops. Set toe within the green range and let the car go. Nothing wrong with that, for the majority of people they just want the car to drive straight and to keep toe within spec to avoid major tire wear but a full alignment should take the time to set rear camber (which is adjustable on M2) exactly even and to also set front and rear toe exactly even.

Front camber and caster are not adjustable on M2 like most BMWs.

I see people asking why there is a price difference between the corner alignment shops and dealership / performance shop alignments and this is the answer. Setting front toe takes 20-30 minutes. Doing a full alignment of all adjustable angles, test driving the car to ensure it feels right and the steering wheel is dead straight, and making any necessary adjustments to finalize can easily take 1.5 to 2 hours and the <$150 places certainly are not taking the time to do all that.
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This looks like exactly what you get at the typical $60-80 alignment shops. Set toe within the green range and let the car go. Nothing wrong with that, for the majority of people they just want the car to drive straight and to keep toe within spec to avoid major tire wear but a full alignment should take the time to set rear camber (which is adjustable on M2) exactly even and to also set front and rear toe exactly even.

Front camber and caster are not adjustable on M2 like most BMWs.

I see people asking why there is a price difference between the corner alignment shops and dealership / performance shop alignments and this is the answer. Setting front toe takes 20-30 minutes. Doing a full alignment of all adjustable angles, test driving the car to ensure it feels right and the steering wheel is dead straight, and making any necessary adjustments to finalize can easily take 1.5 to 2 hours and the <$150 places certainly are not taking the time to do all that.
I took my M2 to a track specialty shop and they told me they could dial in some camber front and rear on my stock suspension for the 5 or 6 track days I do a year I do not want to go with Camber Plates with this few track days. I have read on this forum that M2 has no adjustment for camber on front, just rear. Does this sound right. Is there any benefit doing a Track alignment if there is no adjustment in front? They tell me they can remove the Strut Pin and get some Camber. Have you ever heard of this? I am willing to get a track alignment only if there is some benefit.
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Rear camber is green but should match approx side/side. Who did the alignment? They obviously didn't pay attention to basics.
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I've just had mine put through a KDS session.

Noting that mine is RHD, the target measurements for the rear camber are Left: -1degree 51', Right: -2degrees 14'.

For the front camber, the target measurements are Left: -1degree 43', Right: 1degree 31'

Front Toe: 0degrees Rear Toe 0degrees 17'

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I just had my 2018 M2 aligned at the dealership after having KW V3's and Dinan swaybars installed elsewhere.

My dealership said they didn't have the M2 alignment specs available to them, so they aligned it to the specs of a lowered F23 (2-series 'vert) w/ 19" wheels. Wish I saw BAN_M2C post previously so I could give it to them.

What I find interesting is how our front camber numbers are different, if the M2 has no camber adjustment. Shouldn't mine be the same as Ban_m2c's, since there is no available adjustment?

Also unsure why they set my left rear toe 0.05 degrees greater than the right rear toe. Unsure if the difference between wheels really matters tho.

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I just had my 2018 M2 aligned at the dealership after having KW V3's and Dinan swaybars installed elsewhere.

My dealership said they didn't have the M2 alignment specs available to them, so they aligned it to the specs of a lowered F23 (2-series 'vert) w/ 19" wheels. Wish I saw BAN_M2C post previously so I could give it to them.

What I find interesting is how our front camber numbers are different, if the M2 has no camber adjustment. Shouldn't mine be the same as Ban_m2c's, since there is no available adjustment?

Also unsure why they set my left rear toe 0.05 degrees greater than the right rear toe. Unsure if the difference between wheels really matters tho.

That’s a lot of front toe in. Below are the settings I use, along with the OEM “in the middle” of the acceptable ranges for US M2’s.

Of important note, Ban’s alignment is in degrees & minutes. Yours and my specs below are just degrees.

Alignment Specs (deg)
Track: Front: -3.1, 0.04 total toe in, Rear: -2.0, 0.29 total toe in
Street: Front: -1.8, 0.10 total toe in, Rear: -1.8, 0.29 total toe in
OEM: Front: -1.5, 0.16 total toe in, Rear: -1.8, 0.27 total toe in
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Noting that the V3s are very similar to the M Performance set up (although the latter has specified ride height settings), the installation instructions for the MPS finish off with:

5. Concluding work and coding
The retrofit system does not require programming/coding.
– Connect the battery
– Conduct a function test
– Re-assemble the car
– Carry out steering angle adjustment
– Carry out a standard chassis measurement with DIN loading as described in ISTA No. 32 00 150
– Carry out a chassis measurement and adjust using the standard chassis adjustment data
Print out the attached workshop certificate, complete it and give it to the customer with the TÜV parts report.

This would suggest the stock toe and camber settings are the ones to go for, allowing for the front camber being non-adjustable (and the settings being different for RHD/LHD markets).

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