[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

What? Umm... pretty sure I'm an attorney that works in this space and know what I'm talking about. I'm not just "people". Without making this a treatise on the DMCA, copyright law, and the CO's limited exemptions, technically, the doctrine of exhaustion applies to a physical product but not source/object code. You can modify the shit out of your car, but when you manipulate or create a modified set of the code that operates the computers, you are creating a derivative work. That modification also violates the EULA (license agreement) that comes with the software on your car. Your "rights" as a consumer don't mean shit in that context.

You're probably one of those people that thinks you "own" that song or movie you bought and downloaded from iTunes. News flash, you don't. You just have a license to it.

But let me give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you think my position is that I wouldn't code or tune. It's not. I want to and I do on all my cars. Doesn't mean it technically isn't violating someone else's IP. Just like I walk through my neighbors yard to get to the park by my house. Technically I'm trespassing, doesn't mean I'm not going to do it. Just because BMW and my neighbor don't come after me in court, doesn't mean they don't technically have a right to.

Dinan uses piggyback tune, no change of source code involved

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Dinan uses piggyback tune, no change of source code involved

And that wasn't what I was talking about.

[CrazyK]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

0.10.072 app update is out for iOS, Android and Web:

Changes include:
- Fixes for layout (single column for dash in portrait mode) on Android Samsung devices
- Datalog viewer zoom in/out fix
- Scrolling fix for dashboard on iOS and Android
- Layout mode/repositioning activated through popup menu (press and hold on any gauge). Double-tap anywhere to exit layout mode.
- Double-tap on any gauge to start/stop datalogging (no button to press, its removed, tap anywhere instead)
- Top bar on the dash screen is removed for a cleaner look and getting valuable screen real estate back. Top bar is preserved on non mobile devices
- Visual indicator (infinite scroll progress bar) across the top of dash to indicate logging is running
- Visual indicator of agent status across the top in the dash when no connection to OBD/agent
- Fix for comments form on tune requests/maps going away as keyboard would come up. Now stays.
- OBD Agent Min version stays at 0.10.071 (i.e. no agent update)

when 19.03 coming out?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Thanks for sharing! However, this looks unusually low to me for stage 1, even for shitty 91oct. Not exactly apples to apples since they arenmt from the same day but here's another dyno result by EAS which was done for a stock M4 ZCP on 91oct:

infinitekidM2C's dyno is correct for M2C, they usually baseline at ~400whp on a dynojet. Gains are healthy for a S1 OTS file on 91oct.

[MR RIZK]

Originally Posted by gmazet

demonstrated here

Not for the S55 with DCT. See this thread half way down

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...243&page=2

[imported_Riq]

So, if the ECU has been updated by BMW, there is no way to Use the BM3 flash?

[Trapperj]

Originally Posted by imported_Riq

So, if the ECU has been updated by BMW, there is no way to Use the BM3 flash?

That’s been my experience. Others too. Hopefully a workaround sooner than later. After having the extra push from BM3 (esp stage 1) going back to stock feels somewhat boring.

[Bilal04]

im sure this has been asked before.. as im considering bootmod... is the flash detectable by bmw? will i be risking the motorplan/warranties

[gmazet]

Originally Posted by Bilal04

im sure this has been asked before.. as im considering bootmod... is the flash detectable by bmw? will i be risking the motorplan/warranties

so many threads on this point..

there's moral debates too

bottom line, if you want to keep your warranty, don't mess with it, or buy a product that comes with its own warranty like Dinan.

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by Bilal04

im sure this has been asked before.. as im considering bootmod... is the flash detectable by bmw? will i be risking the motorplan/warranties

Yes and yes.

[chmura]

My buddy who flashed his M2c with BM3 stage 1 map raced my stock M2c. Both Manual transmission.

We did 2 runs from 20-130 mph on a private course. Second gear rolling start and he was 2-4 car lengths ahead of me at the end of the run. Not sure if this is a huge significant difference? We was cool to see and compare a stock M2c to a tuned stage 1 M2c.

[gmazet]

Originally Posted by chmura

My buddy who flashed his M2c with BM3 stage 1 map raced my stock M2c. Both Manual transmission.

We did 2 runs from 20-130 mph on a private course. Second gear rolling start and he was 2-4 car lengths ahead of me at the end of the run. Not sure if this is a huge significant difference? We was cool to see and compare a stock M2c to a tuned stage 1 M2c.

2 lengths is meh
4 is much better.

shifting skills similar?

what's the HP/torque of a stage 1 anyway?

[chmura]

Originally Posted by gmazet

2 lengths is meh
4 is much better.

shifting skills similar?

what's the HP/torque of a stage 1 anyway?

I would say it was like 3 car lengths in front of me. Slightly slightly pulling on me over 100. But the outcome was not a huge difference.

[gmazet]

Originally Posted by chmura

I would say it was like 3 car lengths in front of me. Slightly slightly pulling on me over 100. But the outcome was not a huge difference.

stock+warranty FTW!

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

0.10.072 app update is out for iOS, Android and Web:

Changes include:
- Fixes for layout (single column for dash in portrait mode) on Android Samsung devices
- Datalog viewer zoom in/out fix
- Scrolling fix for dashboard on iOS and Android
- Layout mode/repositioning activated through popup menu (press and hold on any gauge). Double-tap anywhere to exit layout mode.
- Double-tap on any gauge to start/stop datalogging (no button to press, its removed, tap anywhere instead)
- Top bar on the dash screen is removed for a cleaner look and getting valuable screen real estate back. Top bar is preserved on non mobile devices
- Visual indicator (infinite scroll progress bar) across the top of dash to indicate logging is running
- Visual indicator of agent status across the top in the dash when no connection to OBD/agent
- Fix for comments form on tune requests/maps going away as keyboard would come up. Now stays.
- OBD Agent Min version stays at 0.10.071 (i.e. no agent update)

Hi. Is there any way to add an audible alert when reaching a particular RPM? I know that my last tune, years old, could do this. It's quite helpful for shifting purposes. Especially in this car as it pulls like a biatch. Thoughts?

[808elise]

Originally Posted by chmura

I would say it was like 3 car lengths in front of me. Slightly slightly pulling on me over 100. But the outcome was not a huge difference.

Good point. Go straight to stg 2.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by chmura

My buddy who flashed his M2c with BM3 stage 1 map raced my stock M2c. Both Manual transmission.

We did 2 runs from 20-130 mph on a private course. Second gear rolling start and he was 2-4 car lengths ahead of me at the end of the run. Not sure if this is a huge significant difference? We was cool to see and compare a stock M2c to a tuned stage 1 M2c.

Is that all? Not worth to flash or piggyback and waste the warranty in my view

[infinitekidM2C]

Has anyone told BMW not to update their software? If so what's their response and what are we going to be "missing out on"?

[akkando]

Originally Posted by infinitekidM2C

Has anyone told BMW not to update their software? If so what's their response and what are we going to be "missing out on"?

Try telling them to update your software. They usually say no, unless you want to pay for labor.

[pz619]

Originally Posted by infinitekidM2C

Has anyone told BMW not to update their software? If so what's their response and what are we going to be "missing out on"?

I have to imagine it would immediately raise flags on why you wouldn’t want the update. I doubt they’d actually flag it in the system, but would definitely raise some eyebrows.

Kind of like telling someone “don’t look in the trunk, oh... no reason”.

[five3three]

Originally Posted by infinitekidM2C

Has anyone told BMW not to update their software? If so what's their response and what are we going to be "missing out on"?

I did just that on my last service visit upon dropoff. I simply said there have been complaints about the recent updates and that my preference is to not have a software update. My advisor said no problem and that they only did updates if a repair they had to do required it, not just because one was available.

[doughboy]

Same here. In uk anyway it's classed as a "quality enhancement" not compulsory update.

They were fine about it. I said to them I'd look into it and get back to them