[dtmurf]

Originally Posted by steve457

Just saw this rendering done. I'm really hoping they stick to the regular sized front grill.

...if it looks like that, I suspected they will not fly out the door.

[medphysdave]

2023 BMW M2 coupe Updates

https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/04/01/2...e-know-so-far/

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

2023 BMW M2 coupe Updates
https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/04/01/2...e-know-so-far/

See also:

Originally Posted by lemetier

Its chassis basis is the Sports Car variant (Z4/Supra) of Longitudinal CLAR (CLuster ARchitecture), with an added section from the 35up variant found in the 8er coupe to extend the wheelbase slightly and accommodate 2nd row seating.

Originally Posted by lemetier

Size doesn't increase dramatically with the exception of track/body width. G42 is as wide as current F87 with G87 increased even further. The G87 is going to be a rather special car. It will be the final non-hybridized ICE volume production model released, starting with a 450ps 6MT Pure.

Originally Posted by lemetier

Production car is closer to the 2002 Hommage

E82 M2:


G87 M2:


2002 Hommage:

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Artemis

See also:

Shaping up to be exciting. Dare I infer that they are learning from their customers and keeping some distance between the directions of the M2 vs M3/M4.

G87 should to come with CF roof, M3/M4 seats. Maybe we can hope for even the carbon fiber buckets as an option? Focus on remaining more light on its feet.

[vj123]

I hope the info in the above blog comes true.
- Prefer it old school with less tech (driver assist features in specific)
- DCT as an option
- Regular grills

[annabellapizza]

Not getting my hopes up for any BMW because of how all new models have been... but they better not mess up the m2. it's looking likely it might not have the hideous long m3/m4 grill.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by vj123

- DCT as an option

ZF8. No more M-DCT after June 2021.

[Poochie]

Ohhhh yea, the countdown begins!

Finally being car note free, I'm now saving up all my pennies for a new G87

They had me at 6MT & S58 motor; everything else is just gravy..

[cptobvious]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Ohhhh yea, the countdown begins!

Finally being car note free, I'm now saving up all my pennies for a new G87

They had me at 6MT & S58 motor; everything else is just gravy..

Yeah, man!!! You and me both!!!

G87 M2 is my next car.

When the time comes, let's hold hands and click the order button at the same time together, okay?

In fact, I want us to have matching configurations too. Pinky promise?

BFFs!!!

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by cptobvious

Yeah, man!!! You and me both!!!

G87 M2 is my next car.

When the time comes, let's hold hands and click the order button at the same time together, okay?

In fact, I want us to have matching configurations too. Pinky promise?

BFFs!!!

Deal

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by JustChris

No M135i is XDrive

Damn that thing is badass

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by (K)

Those mirrors are terrible looking. As a whole, it looks SUV-ish.

Very suv'ish

I really hope we get the seating position that the new m3/4 have

Its amazing how much lower you sit in them compared to the current m2

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Ohhhh yea, the countdown begins!

Finally being car note free, I'm now saving up all my pennies for a new G87

They had me at 6MT & S58 motor; everything else is just gravy..

I'm concerned. I've become very picky when it comes to the character of an engine. The detuned state of the s55 in the m2c I don't like. I can feel where it stops making more HP around 5.5k rpm and the power is just flat. The m3c and m2cs state of tune seems much better if you're the type to want to rev an engine out. I'm worried that detuned state of the s58 will be similar to the m2c and not reward for taking it to the top of the rev range.

[TargaM2]

Regarding the possibility of an awd M version of the 1 series. Here's a link or 2 for those those that seem to be under the illusion that there is no Xdrive AWD 1 series...
Yes in the US you may not get it ? (you don't get a lot of the good stuff actually) but shock horror! there's actually a whole world outside the US and some are even on this site. So please understand that just because your not aware of something doesn't mean it's non existent.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/830066/...xdrive-review/

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...to/first-drive

[akkando]

Do we have any idea if bmw will offer individual colors on the G87 or the new 2 series?

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by akkando

I'm concerned. I've become very picky when it comes to the character of an engine. The detuned state of the s55 in the m2c I don't like. I can feel where it stops making more HP around 5.5k rpm and the power is just flat. The m3c and m2cs state of tune seems much better if you're the type to want to rev an engine out. I'm worried that detuned state of the s58 will be similar to the m2c and not reward for taking it to the top of the rev range.

That's a legitimate concern and the surprisedly lower torque numbers (relative the upwards motor trend) is kind of discouraging.

However, if it means I can beat on it, banging gears and revving out to the redline like a Honda, until it run out of gas, without having to worry about the infamous S55 crank hub issue, then I'll take the good with the bad.

[buckybadger]

Like all new M cars, the G87 M2 will lose some character but may improve in other areas. This is just by looking at the BMW line up these days as compared to the past.

[W///]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Like all new M cars, the G87 M2 will lose some character but may improve in other areas. This is just by looking at the BMW line up these days as compared to the past.

I don't really agree with this actually. I personally feel like outside the F87, the F generations are not the absolute best, whether we're talking about interior quality, engine sound, integration of EPS especially on non M models ect ect... The G05 in your garage for example, is such a huge leap forward compared to an F15 IMO.

Looking at the new M3/4, we can expect an improved/sharper steering system, monster engine that can be paired with 6MT that to me sounds better than the S55 from factory, significantly nicer interior. From the reviews, I haven't seen too many people mention the weight affecting the handling of the car. If anything, it seems the car has way more grip and puts down power very well.

Apart from losing DCT, which is not relevant for me, I think the future looks really bright for the G87. I'm really excited, and will probably get one after LCI as it'll most likely be my last pure ICE car.

[AlpsRider]

Personally I really hate the computer game instrument panel. I much prefer analog. The G87 might be a great end to an era or it might be too big and heavy for the M2 enthusiast type. We just don't know yet what the specs will be.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by W///

I don't really agree with this actually. I personally feel like outside the F87, the F generations are not the absolute best, whether we're talking about interior quality, engine sound, integration of EPS especially on non M models ect ect... The G05 in your garage for example, is such a huge leap forward compared to an F15 IMO.

Looking at the new M3/4, we can expect an improved/sharper steering system, monster engine that can be paired with 6MT that to me sounds better than the S55 from factory, significantly nicer interior. From the reviews, I haven't seen too many people mention the weight affecting the handling of the car. If anything, it seems the car has way more grip and puts down power very well.

Apart from losing DCT, which is not relevant for me, I think the future looks really bright for the G87. I'm really excited, and will probably get one after LCI as it'll most likely be my last pure ICE car.

Hmmmm okay, let's see!

[Dabozo]

anyone wager a guess at when we can expect some official info/specs....how soon before actual production begins do details typically get released for bmw?

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

anyone wager a guess at when we can expect some official info/specs....how soon before actual production begins do details typically get released for bmw?

Late summer/early fall 2022.