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      08-06-2020, 12:30 PM   #67
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The biggest issue with Toyota sports cars is that Toyota doesn't build sports cars. They literally re badge other manufacturer's cars as their own. I wouldn't trust that in the sense of when the car needs servicing, wouldn't the techs at Subaru or BMW know more about the car than Toyota?
They're trained to work on these cars

It's something a master tech would work on not the average lube oil and filter tech
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      08-06-2020, 12:58 PM   #68
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These are the S55 Tune numbers I have (US):

405hp/406lb-ft M2C
425hp/406lb-ft Base M3/4
444hp/406lb-ft Competition Pkg M3/4
444hp/406lb-ft M2cs
454hp/442lb-ft M4cs
500hp/442lb-ft M4GTS (with water injection)

Agreed - People forget the M2C's S55 is de-tuned.
I posted the power values in DIN hp, you are showing SAE hp. In that respect, the GTS should show 493hp to be consistent and CS should show 453hp to be more precise .
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      08-07-2020, 12:34 AM   #69
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dont forget about the bumpsteer on the z4/Supra. I dont care about the engine both are great but the kinematics on the m3/4/2 are are superior
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dont forget about the bumpsteer on the z4/Supra. I dont care about the engine both are great but the kinematics on the m3/4/2 are are superior
I highly doubt this considering the laptimes they put down with a big power deficit. The F8x has issues with the rear.
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dont forget about the bumpsteer on the z4/Supra. I dont care about the engine both are great but the kinematics on the m3/4/2 are are superior
I highly doubt this considering the laptimes they put down with a big power deficit. The F8x has issues with the rear.
there is a difference in low grip and bumpsteer. especialy on bumpier tracks (Nordschleife) bumpsteer can be a big issue. there is a quite interesting video about this from the owner of Apex Taxi. check it out.

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