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      05-23-2019, 11:36 AM   #221
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No dispute here about Nardo being a VAG colour (BTW, we also own an Audi )

The point is that folks can order pretty much any colour they want through the Individual program.

Lime Rock Grey is nothing like Nardo. I dont particularly like Nardo either, we actually had to pay extra to get a different colour than Nardo on our RS3. But I really like the Lime Rock Grey on my CS
I hear ya....I'm not a big fan of any grey that looks like cement. Some people love it though. When it comes to greys, I prefer more of a metallic gun metal look.
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I just hope the exterior colour choices are not set in stone yet... one can dream!
yup! it's time for a decent color offering. I like the grey M3/M4CS. Not sure what its called.
It's called Nardo Gray.

Here's it on a 4 series..


Nardo Grey F36 Unicorn is Here https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1588989
Correction, it's Lime Rock Grey Metallic. In the sun you can see the highlights. It's one of the reasons I got the M3 CS.
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Thy must have done something different with the m3 cs exhaust, it sounds better
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I don't believe we will see an M2cs hit the market before the current M4 EOP. IMO, the M2cs is perfect candidate to fill the void between the F8X EOP and G8X SOP.
I might get the 1st M2CS available in our area. I will let you know when I get more official details
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Thy must have done something different with the m3 cs exhaust, it sounds better
To my ears, the M3CS (and I am assuming M4CS as well) exhaust is the best sounding iteration of the S55.

It even sounds better than the MPE on certain videos...I'm not sure what the take rate has been for the MPE for those that have the M3/4CS...would be interesting to hear feedback on the differences.
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Thy must have done something different with the m3 cs exhaust, it sounds better
To my ears, the M3CS (and I am assuming M4CS as well) exhaust is the best sounding iteration of the S55.

It even sounds better than the MPE on certain videos...I'm not sure what the take rate has been for the MPE for those that have the M3/4CS...would be interesting to hear feedback on the differences.
I second that, that titanium piping makes the CS sound sonorous. Best attempt yet for a S55 iteration.

Hopefully, BMW doesn't cheap out and use a less exotic material for the M2 CS' exhaust...

Forward to 3:35 for a sample sound:

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Thy must have done something different with the m3 cs exhaust, it sounds better
To my ears, the M3CS (and I am assuming M4CS as well) exhaust is the best sounding iteration of the S55.

It even sounds better than the MPE on certain videos...I'm not sure what the take rate has been for the MPE for those that have the M3/4CS...would be interesting to hear feedback on the differences.
It's significantly better with the MPE. I had the stock exhaust for 2 months before getting the MPE.
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It's significantly better with the MPE. I had the stock exhaust for 2 months before getting the MPE.
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If truly limited production, I think they'll be spoken for rather quickly.

I have noticed some potential owners (1M types) sitting on the sidelines waiting for the M2 they have imagined, bypassing the M2 and M2C. If the M2CS meets their wishlist, I hope it they find an allocation at a price they feel is reasonable.
Screw those 1M type buyers. I hope they get to pay 20K markup on the cars when they come out.
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I'm not sure what the take rate has been for the MPE for those that have the M3/4CS...would be interesting to hear feedback on the differences.
In Europe MPE was not officially offered for the CS. People bought it anyway. I preferred to stay stock. The standard exhaust sound good and loud enough for me.

MPE is too loud sometimes and loud/flashy cars got a bad reputation here, due to certain individuals. Attracts unwanted attention.
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It's significantly better with the MPE. I had the stock exhaust for 2 months before getting the MPE.
Better in which way? Louder? Yes. An unpleasant metallic noise, very close to no name no cat exhausts.
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I second that, that titanium piping makes the CS sound sonorous. Best attempt yet for a S55 iteration.

Hopefully, BMW doesn't cheap out and use a less exotic material for the M2 CS' exhaust...
There is no "titanium piping" on a stock M3/4cs. IMO, the main difference in sound emanates from the unique CS engine tune.

I have an MPE on my CS, which is titanium, and it sounds significantly better than stock.
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I second that, that titanium piping makes the CS sound sonorous. Best attempt yet for a S55 iteration.

Hopefully, BMW doesn't cheap out and use a less exotic material for the M2 CS' exhaust...

Forward to 3:35 for a sample sound:

There is no "titanium piping" on a stock M3/4cs.
Really, I heard differently or maybe I'm mixing it up with the GTS.

What makes it sound different from the M4 CP then, the tune?
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So there we have it, the car we knew that was coming and a package that most of us already almost have on their cars...

Alcantara steering wheel - Check
Exhaust - Check
Brakes - Check (Not ceramic, don't need them)
Wheels - Ordered
Suspension - Ordered
Badge - I can buy
Carbon mirror caps - Check
Carbon diffuser - Check
Carbon splitter - Not considering it
Carbon bonnet - Hopefully soon
Carbon roof - Hopefully soon
Carbon trunk - Hopefully soon
Carbon center console - Not fuzzed
Red and Alcantara interior trim - Not fuzzed

This car will have only two things I want from it! The software for the MDM and the software for the steering... Other than that I am not fussed. My set up will be lighter, better set up and faster than the CS. Maybe I should order a CSL badge for mine.

This thing must be costing 20K more than a decently packed M2C. Not sure it is worth that money in the market second hand with 911's, GT4's and M4 CS's being dumped on the market at prices lower than this M2 CS. Oh and don't forget that horrible Misano Blue. It should have had the new blue from the 8-Series or something else, not this... Also another blue for a CS? Is that a trend? Where are the reds and yellows?

2200 is a nice number, but too many really to be picked quickly. Knowing how hard it is to get dealers to sell M4 CS's I wonder how they will manage to sell these at a price tag close to 90-95K EUR or 75K GBP.

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You’ve ordered $7k worth of upgrades for your car already, and are considering another $10k or more worth of carbon goodies. How is your car not going to cost $20k over a stock M2C in the end?? And with a much lousier resale value.
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It's significantly better with the MPE. I had the stock exhaust for 2 months before getting the MPE.
Better in which way? Louder? Yes. An unpleasant metallic noise, very close to no name no cat exhausts.
On the CS it sounds slightly deeper and less raspy than it did on my non-competition M3. That brings up another question though: will the M2 CS include the CS engine tune to push torque up to 443 ft-lb?
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So there we have it, the car we knew that was coming and a package that most of us already almost have on their cars...

Alcantara steering wheel - Check
Exhaust - Check
Brakes - Check (Not ceramic, don't need them)
Wheels - Ordered
Suspension - Ordered
Badge - I can buy
Carbon mirror caps - Check
Carbon diffuser - Check
Carbon splitter - Not considering it
Carbon bonnet - Hopefully soon
Carbon roof - Hopefully soon
Carbon trunk - Hopefully soon
Carbon center console - Not fuzzed
Red and Alcantara interior trim - Not fuzzed

This car will have only two things I want from it! The software for the MDM and the software for the steering... Other than that I am not fussed. My set up will be lighter, better set up and faster than the CS. Maybe I should order a CSL badge for mine.

This thing must be costing 20K more than a decently packed M2C. Not sure it is worth that money in the market second hand with 911's, GT4's and M4 CS's being dumped on the market at prices lower than this M2 CS. Oh and don't forget that horrible Misano Blue. It should have had the new blue from the 8-Series or something else, not this... Also another blue for a CS? Is that a trend? Where are the reds and yellows?

2200 is a nice number, but too many really to be picked quickly. Knowing how hard it is to get dealers to sell M4 CS's I wonder how they will manage to sell these at a price tag close to 90-95K EUR or 75K GBP.

MR
You’ve ordered $7k worth of upgrades for your car already, and are considering another $10k or more worth of carbon goodies. How is your car not going to cost $20k over a stock M2C in the end?? And with a much lousier resale value.
Not to mention that you can't necessarily just have a carbon fiber roof installed.
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Better in which way? Louder? Yes. An unpleasant metallic noise, very close to no name no cat exhausts.
With the valves closed, the MPE offers a much deeper purr than the stock exhaust without being any louder. I find it very enjoyable when just cruising around.

With the valves open at low RPM, it has a deep menacing growl typical of BMW inline-6 engines which turns into a race car like howl at higher RPM. It is indeed quite louder than stock with the valves open. In Sport+, the burbles on overrun sound like riffle shots that can startle bystanders, which is sometimes funny but also a bit obnoxious.

Interestingly, the MPE on my M4cs sound quite different than it did on my 2015 M4. The exhaust sound is much cleaner and deeper, with less rasp overall and less farting on upshifts and liftoff.
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Really, I heard differently or maybe I'm mixing it up with the GTS.

What makes it sound different from the M4 CP then, the tune?
The GTS comes stock with the MPE which has a titanium rear section while the CS comes with the stainless steel Sport exhaust from the competition package. What the GTS and CS both have as unique elements are welded on single walled tips on the rear section.

And yes, I believe a key differentiator for the CS sound comes from the engine tune.
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On the CS it sounds slightly deeper and less raspy than it did on my non-competition M3. That brings up another question though: will the M2 CS include the CS engine tune to push torque up to 443 ft-lb?
I highly doubt this will be the case. IMO, the M2cs will have the M3/4 competition pack tune.
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Hard to be a hater when the CS offers nothing a regular Comp owner cant upgrade to

1. Tune: BM3 -> Official BMW M2CS MAP. Same engine, no issues. ✓

2. Adaptive Suspensions: KW HAS Kit. Air Suspension that is electronically adjustable. ✓

3. All of the rest: M-Performance Catalog ✓

Only haters in the forum are OG M2 owners. Can't change engine and a lot of money on cosmetics (seats, mirrors etc.) that otherwise come base on the Comp.
If you truly think that the M2CS is ONLY going to upgrade these 3 things then I don't know what else to tell you...

The difference of interior and above all driving experience changed considerably from M3/M4 Comp to the CS version.
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The difference of interior and above all driving experience changed considerably from M3/M4 Comp to the CS version.
In that it stopped trying to hurl itself into the nearest ditch, or?
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