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      08-05-2020, 09:56 AM   #1
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Anyone else not a fan of Joe...
I kinda like him but his videos are boring. He keeps going on repeating the same thing.
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Nicely done. I can't believe this is only front page now. Did no one else post in the M2 section?
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Anyone else not a fan of Joe...
I do wish he could be more concise. His videos would be better edited down to 10, 15 minutes tops.
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For it to be an fair comparison- Both cars need the same ties and wheels. Also the M2C needs to be on stock suspension or MP Suspension
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Interesting findings. Somewhat unexpected.

Will be hard to make a decision without test driving one (and the anticipated COVID scarcity might make that impossible), but letís just say Iím definitely less excited about this car now.
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+1

I like British accent very much but somehow I hate him.

Same for that Scottish guy on drivetribe tube.

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Interesting findings. Somewhat unexpected.

Will be hard to make a decision without test driving one (and the anticipated COVID scarcity might make that impossible), but letís just say Iím definitely less excited about this car now.

What was it you were hoping would be conveyed?

I actually think the video pretty accurately reflects what BMW was hoping to accomplish. If someone wants a serious track prepped M2 the CS isn't the way to go. The $25k additional cost would be much better spent on a real suspension, lighter wheels, better brakes for track use etc etc.

I feel like the CS is for a person that wants an M2 but wants all the coolest components available. Carbon fiber roof, carbon fiber hood, wheel/brake package, adjustable susp, interior changes all bad azz.

There are obviously exceptions to the rule but vast majority of M2CS owners are buying the car because it looks so dam good, not because it's x.xx seconds faster around their local track.
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What was it you were hoping would be conveyed?

I actually think the video pretty accurately reflects what BMW was hoping to accomplish. If someone wants a serious track prepped M2 the CS isn't the way to go. The $25k additional cost would be much better spent on a real suspension, lighter wheels, better brakes for track use etc etc.

I feel like the CS is for a person that wants an M2 but wants all the coolest components available. Carbon fiber roof, carbon fiber hood, wheel/brake package, adjustable susp, interior changes all bad azz.

There are obviously exceptions to the rule but vast majority of M2CS owners are buying the car because it looks so dam good, not because it's x.xx seconds faster around their local track.
I was hoping for a more "clubsporty" experience, worthy of the CS moniker. Meaning, a more hardcore OEM++ if you'd like without losing the warranty. BMW's own "GT3-like" car.

My current M3, engine-tuned mildly and running Ohlins suspension, is a very capable and exciting car. I track my car. I was hoping the M2 CS might capture the same excitement, with a full OEM warranty (and the lovely CF bits don't hurt).

So yes, probably not for me.
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Interesting findings. Somewhat unexpected.

Will be hard to make a decision without test driving one (and the anticipated COVID scarcity might make that impossible), but letís just say Iím definitely less excited about this car now.
You won't be able to test drive a CS, customer order only. Test drive a M2 Competition.
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I was hoping for a more "clubsporty" experience, worthy of the CS moniker. Meaning, a more hardcore OEM++ if you'd like without losing the warranty. BMW's own "GT3-like" car.

My current M3, engine-tuned mildly and running Ohlins suspension, is a very capable and exciting car. I track my car. I was hoping the M2 CS might capture the same excitement, with a full OEM warranty (and the lovely CF bits don't hurt).

So yes, probably not for me.
Sounds like you need a GT3 or GT4.
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About a $25K difference here in Canada and definitely hard to justify. Probably my biggest issue with it is the fact that a much more capable S58 M2 is just around the corner.

Absolutely love the hood and wheels though. But of course, you gotta go gold on misano.
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I'm pretty neutral when it comes to Joe but you sound like a straight up hater...
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Gotta give him props for filming and editing that. 30 minutes is a lot of work. But, I don't have the time or attention span to watch all of that.
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I'm pretty neutral when it comes to Joe but you sound like a straight up hater...
How do I sound like a straight up hater. I literally just asked if anyone else isn't a fan of his, I didn't call him names or even say anything that rude, simply asked a question. You need to not jump to conclusions. I don't hate him in any way, I just find him boring, hence I wanted to know if others felt the same.
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I'm pretty neutral when it comes to Joe but you sound like a straight up hater...
Sounds like a jealous hater, some horrible people on forums
Oh yes I am a horrible troll on the forums with a 5000+ reputation scores and truly despise Joe and anyone who supports his right to make youtube videos /s some people are so sensitive to public opinions...
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He's very dry. That kid on the skateboard though! More interesting than Joe.
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