03-29-2020, 02:05 PM | #177 | |
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Fuel labs is probably the best, but the filters are single use.
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03-30-2020, 10:46 AM | #179 | |
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Thank you for this. I'll look into the Fuel Labs a little more, could have sworn their filters were replaceable.
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03-30-2020, 10:58 AM | #180 |
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You replace the cartridge inside not the whole housing. If you use e85 make sure you get the correct filter material.
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03-31-2020, 10:32 AM | #181 |
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You're right. I meant to say reusable. The labs 818 is 10 micron, e85 compatible and uses a cellulose filter element (disposable). In order to move to a reusable you'd step up to a 45 micron. At the moment, kind of stuck with routing the fuel line up to the LPFP. Might hold off until this is resolved.
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03-31-2020, 10:37 AM | #182 |
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Just a quick update. UPS dropped off the replacement flange and new bolts. We also received an email indicating that the new bolts are longer and should help us in maintaining a 15nm torque. Dorch has been amazing in handling this issue. It's comforting to know that if something goes wrong, they reply lighting fast and ship the part overnight so you can finish up and get back on the road. Yep, amazing. |
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03-31-2020, 11:08 AM | #183 | |
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04-09-2020, 09:28 AM | #184 |
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Install went very well, the new flange and longer bolts went in with zero issues. I will say this though, the vacuum line that sits just forward of the HPFP will be very difficult to release once the new pump is installed. Difficult but not impossible. Something to keep in mind.
We now just need to re-install the manifold and all the bits and pieces. We'll do that this weekend. |
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04-09-2020, 09:44 AM | #185 |
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So I have a possible concern over the LPFP line placement. The OEM line is in two sections. The HPFP hard line which is secured by [2] 13mm bolts (underneath a large wiring block) and a flex line that routes to the OEM fuel line. When you remove the hard line and flex line, you're provided with a new flex line (braided). The instructions indicate to route this behind the HPFP, through a new provided mount (keeps it off the engine) and underneath the wire harness (where the hard line was mounted).
So in short, the line is pretty close (OK really close if not touching) to the engine in this routing pattern. The new line is much larger (than the hard line) and there is really no room underneath the wiring block. So rather than run the line underneath, we ran it over the wire block. The manifold looks like it'll clear without issues and this keeps it away from the engine. I'm not sure how many people have actually performed the install but I'd like to hear what others think. Sometimes it's one of those, if you have to ask situations but this is also good for others performing the install. |
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04-09-2020, 11:33 AM | #188 |
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Great question. When we first reached out to them, they thought (initially) it was our torque wrench and the low rating required for install. In other words, perhaps the calibration was off. When the new parts shipped, they indicated that it probably wasn't the torque wrench and to maintain 15nm. So I'm left to wonder if the flange had a possible issue when it was machined. The longer bolts seem like an added security. I'm sure they look at this statistically and may be including longer bolts on new shipments as it's cheap insurance.
TLDR: Yes, I'd reach out and ask if they can provide the longer bolts (4mm longer). How close are you to doing the install ? |
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04-09-2020, 12:14 PM | #190 |
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Imo it's more for added protection but no fully needed.
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“This was a fairly isolated incident. Over the years we’ve done hundreds of these kits (Dorch Engineering is a new brand, but we’ve been automotive engineers/suppliers for a while!) and only 2 have had this issue. We looked further into it and it looks like a couple of the S2 kits received the wrong bolts (this has since been solved). The S1 kits never had any parts bin mix-ups so you are good to go!” |
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04-09-2020, 12:35 PM | #192 | |
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No kidding, they never indicated that to us (probably took them some time to figure that one out). Well, that's good news. The bolt is 55mm from bottom of bolt head to last thread. Just in case anyone wonders if they have the correct bolts for the S2 kit.
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I ordered my kit back during the pre-order phase but just got around to installing it. Everything was going smoothly until I had the same issue and the bolt stripped out the threaded holes in the flange. The bolts never even really snugged up so they started stripping out the holes almost immediately. Looks like I have the bad batch of bolts as mine is 55mm from the top of the bolt face to the very end. Chris at Dorch was very quick to respond even though it was around 6 PM EST. Hopefully will have my replacment parts very quickly so I can get the car back on the road.
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I'm still debating between Dorch and spool, if Dorch had AN style connectors I probably would go with them since spool still hasn't released their FX-180
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I don't think you can modify the pump to have AN fittings instead of the OE style push lock fittings without voiding the warranty. So if you buy an HPFP upgrade without the AN fittings from the get go you are likely stuck with it that way. If you don't care about warranty I am sure you could swap out those fittings if the screw in and aren't welded in.
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05-23-2020, 02:26 AM | #198 | |
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There is really no benefit of going with AN lines over the push lock fittings because you can still get premade fuel lines either way. The reason why I like AN is because there is more AN fittings out there allowing for more flexibility when building fuel lines diy (you have angled fittings, swivels etc), and AN fittings are more widely used so it is easier to integrate fuel filters. That's not to say you can't do the same with push lock fittings (build a line with AN fittings and go push lock at the very end). But the main reason why I prefer AN is because spool performance has life time warranties on everything they sell, so it saves me the time to DIY a fuel line (not fun at all to cut stainless AN hoses and insert fittings, and if you go too short accidentally then that line could be screwed) and I get life time warranty. Whereas fuel-it does not have life time warranty for their push lock style fuel line and the price is kind of high, plus I prefer stainless lines. I hope that wasn't too confusing lol, I kinda just brain dumped.
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