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      10-22-2021, 10:31 PM   #1
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Value evolution of F87 M2 until G87 M2 goes into production (Dec 2022) ?

So, we are talking about 14-15 months till we see them arriving on dealer lots?

What's this time gap going to do on F87 Pricing in the next year???
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I would expect a rise, although you're going to have a rise anyways because of inflation currently. However, I don't expect it to hold once the new models are readily available.
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The CS market is kind of saturated with listings right now and very little interest. I currently have mine listed as the lowest price on autotrader all week and haven't received a single inquiry.

I'd expect these cars to drop in value over the next year and get closer to their MSRP.
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The CS market is kind of saturated with listings right now and very little interest. I currently have mine listed as the lowest price on autotrader all week and haven't received a single inquiry.

I'd expect these cars to drop in value over the next year and get closer to their MSRP.
I agree. I think their were too many speculators trying to get the best M car. People are starting to get over the M3 grille and the G87 is on its way.

It will drop for 5 years and then stabilize. Clean unmodded cars will go up eventually is my guess.
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The CS market is kind of saturated with listings right now and very little interest. I currently have mine listed as the lowest price on autotrader all week and haven't received a single inquiry.

I'd expect these cars to drop in value over the next year and get closer to their MSRP.
I agree. I think their were too many speculators trying to get the best M car. People are starting to get over the M3 grille and the G87 is on its way.

It will drop for 5 years and then stabilize. Clean unmodded cars will go up eventually is my guess.
And that's ok, I just see a lot of the posts now about value and it seems like the market could get more flooded as people realize their car could depreciate.
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And that's ok, I just see a lot of the posts now about value and it seems like the market could get more flooded as people realize their car could depreciate.
The prices i'm seeing right now, given the amount of available inventory, is just way too high. I doubt any besides the EAG cars will fetch some of the numbers i'm seeing.
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And that's ok, I just see a lot of the posts now about value and it seems like the market could get more flooded as people realize their car could depreciate.
The prices i'm seeing right now, given the amount of available inventory, is just way too high. I doubt any besides the EAG cars will fetch some of the numbers i'm seeing.
I think the realistic fair value for a CS right now is between 92-96k manual. 86k-90k for a DCT. Even that may be a tad bit on the high side.

Btw the whole performance and collector car market is on the verge of a correction into potentially decreasing inflation next year. It could get a bit insane.
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And that's ok, I just see a lot of the posts now about value and it seems like the market could get more flooded as people realize their car could depreciate.
The prices i'm seeing right now, given the amount of available inventory, is just way too high. I doubt any besides the EAG cars will fetch some of the numbers i'm seeing.
I think the realistic fair value for a CS right now is between 92-96k manual. 86k-90k for a DCT. Even that may be a tad bit on the high side.

Btw the whole performance and collector car market is on the verge of a correction into potentially decreasing inflation next year. It could get a bit insane.
Agree w/ that sentiment.
Values for all used and new cars ( any brand ) are inflated beyond proportion.
Limited supply and consumer money to throw at it has perpetuated this frenzy.
When taper happens and whatever ensuing effect inflation will have on the buying pool should correct values, but for quality goods, I'm not sure the effect will be so drastic.

I could be way off there.

But I do know this, after buying my M2CS a year ago I found a growing brand loyalty forming.
So much so that against better judgement, I scooped up a zero mod, 16k mile, one owner 1M for far more than I should have paid vs. book a couple of weeks ago.

It was available, checked the boxes and I had the opportunity now vs finding a lesser caliber at a compromise to one degree or another.

I would imagine that enthusiasts know what they have when they have it.
We all seem to share in that.
There aren't a ton of CS out there regardless of spec.
Some will be run through hard (daily drivers, modded beyond excuse, etc), but the ones that are cared for should still fetch a good price.

That's my opinion.. but I'm an owner not a speculator..😜
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I'm hoping it depreciates and causes a panic sale for all the speculators. These cars should be in the hands of people who will drive them. If mine is worth 45k in 5 years (50%), I'd call that a win because I'd have put 100000 miles on it.
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I'm hoping it depreciates and causes a panic sale for all the speculators. These cars should be in the hands of people who will drive them. If mine is worth 45k in 5 years (50%), I'd call that a win because I'd have put 100000 miles on it.
Almost 8k mi on mine I see the G series being polarizing. I think it's going to be a fantastic performer, but I also think it looks a bit generic when taking into account what other manufacturers are doing. The BMW experience in later idrive cars is really great.
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And that's ok, I just see a lot of the posts now about value and it seems like the market could get more flooded as people realize their car could depreciate.
The prices i'm seeing right now, given the amount of available inventory, is just way too high. I doubt any besides the EAG cars will fetch some of the numbers i'm seeing.
I think the realistic fair value for a CS right now is between 92-96k manual. 86k-90k for a DCT. Even that may be a tad bit on the high side.

Btw the whole performance and collector car market is on the verge of a correction into potentially decreasing inflation next year. It could get a bit insane.
Agree w/ that sentiment.
Values for all used and new cars ( any brand ) are inflated beyond proportion.
Limited supply and consumer money to throw at it has perpetuated this frenzy.
When taper happens and whatever ensuing effect inflation will have on the buying pool should correct values, but for quality goods, I'm not sure the effect will be so drastic.

I could be way off there.

But I do know this, after buying my M2CS a year ago I found a growing brand loyalty forming.
So much so that against better judgement, I scooped up a zero mod, 16k mile, one owner 1M for far more than I should have paid vs. book a couple of weeks ago.

It was available, checked the boxes and I had the opportunity now vs finding a lesser caliber at a compromise to one degree or another.

I would imagine that enthusiasts know what they have when they have it.
We all seem to share in that.
There aren't a ton of CS out there regardless of spec.
Some will be run through hard (daily drivers, modded beyond excuse, etc), but the ones that are cared for should still fetch a good price.

That's my opinion.. but I'm an owner not a speculator..😜
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Almost 8k mi on mine I see the G series being polarizing. I think it's going to be a fantastic performer, but I also think it looks a bit generic when taking into account what other manufacturers are doing. The BMW experience in later idrive cars is really great.
5000 on mine.
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And that's ok, I just see a lot of the posts now about value and it seems like the market could get more flooded as people realize their car could depreciate.
The prices i'm seeing right now, given the amount of available inventory, is just way too high. I doubt any besides the EAG cars will fetch some of the numbers i'm seeing.
I think the realistic fair value for a CS right now is between 92-96k manual. 86k-90k for a DCT. Even that may be a tad bit on the high side.

Btw the whole performance and collector car market is on the verge of a correction into potentially decreasing inflation next year. It could get a bit insane.
Agree w/ that sentiment.
Values for all used and new cars ( any brand ) are inflated beyond proportion.
Limited supply and consumer money to throw at it has perpetuated this frenzy.
When taper happens and whatever ensuing effect inflation will have on the buying pool should correct values, but for quality goods, I'm not sure the effect will be so drastic.

I could be way off there.

But I do know this, after buying my M2CS a year ago I found a growing brand loyalty forming.
So much so that against better judgement, I scooped up a zero mod, 16k mile, one owner 1M for far more than I should have paid vs. book a couple of weeks ago.

It was available, checked the boxes and I had the opportunity now vs finding a lesser caliber at a compromise to one degree or another.

I would imagine that enthusiasts know what they have when they have it.
We all seem to share in that.
There aren't a ton of CS out there regardless of spec.
Some will be run through hard (daily drivers, modded beyond excuse, etc), but the ones that are cared for should still fetch a good price.

That's my opinion.. but I'm an owner not a speculator..😜
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The G87 based on what we've learned so far is going to be a vastly different car... it will be 200 or so pounds heavier, have an Auto Tranny, have that bizarre future screen dash / tech and will be an overall larger car... while it will be BMWs smallest offering... i question it's status as a true drivers car given the above... The G80 M3 is getting amazing praise as a performance car while getting 0 drivers car praise... not sure how successful an M2 can be if the same applies.
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And that's ok, I just see a lot of the posts now about value and it seems like the market could get more flooded as people realize their car could depreciate.
The prices i'm seeing right now, given the amount of available inventory, is just way too high. I doubt any besides the EAG cars will fetch some of the numbers i'm seeing.
I think the realistic fair value for a CS right now is between 92-96k manual. 86k-90k for a DCT. Even that may be a tad bit on the high side.

Btw the whole performance and collector car market is on the verge of a correction into potentially decreasing inflation next year. It could get a bit insane.
Agree w/ that sentiment.
Values for all used and new cars ( any brand ) are inflated beyond proportion.
Limited supply and consumer money to throw at it has perpetuated this frenzy.
When taper happens and whatever ensuing effect inflation will have on the buying pool should correct values, but for quality goods, I'm not sure the effect will be so drastic.

I could be way off there.

But I do know this, after buying my M2CS a year ago I found a growing brand loyalty forming.
So much so that against better judgement, I scooped up a zero mod, 16k mile, one owner 1M for far more than I should have paid vs. book a couple of weeks ago.

It was available, checked the boxes and I had the opportunity now vs finding a lesser caliber at a compromise to one degree or another.

I would imagine that enthusiasts know what they have when they have it.
We all seem to share in that.
There aren't a ton of CS out there regardless of spec.
Some will be run through hard (daily drivers, modded beyond excuse, etc), but the ones that are cared for should still fetch a good price.

That's my opinion.. but I'm an owner not a speculator..
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