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      12-01-2021, 08:55 PM   #133
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How would you compare a brand new M240i ($52,000 delivered with good specs) vs a '17/18 M2 (OG/LCI) for about the same price? 45-50K.

Is this crazy hype about the non-comp M2 justified when you can buy a 2022 vehicle, faster and with way better tech for the same money? (uglier though)
I feel hard to justify 45K for 5 year old cars.
I don't know what the difference in suspension is between the the new M240i and the OGM2. The suspension on the previous F22 was terrible for sport driving in comparison to the F87. I know since I owned both of them. The F22 also depreciated like a rock falling off a cliff.
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      12-01-2021, 10:52 PM   #134
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How would you compare a brand new M240i ($52,000 delivered with good specs) vs a '17/18 M2 (OG/LCI) for about the same price? 45-50K.

Is this crazy hype about the non-comp M2 justified when you can buy a 2022 vehicle, faster and with way better tech for the same money? (uglier though)
I feel hard to justify 45K for 5 year old cars.
At least in Canada, a lightly optioned M240i is easily over $10K more than an OG M2 and is in 2020 M2C territory. Also, my wife and I still prefer a manual car which is not available in the M240i (I actually like the look of them - they kept the wide hips of the M2 - and the option of something other than black for interior is a bonus). That said, I guess there is still an aura around the "real" M cars which helps with desirability (and resale)? Time will tell...
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      12-02-2021, 05:46 AM   #135
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How would you compare a brand new M240i ($52,000 delivered with good specs) vs a '17/18 M2 (OG/LCI) for about the same price? 45-50K.

Is this crazy hype about the non-comp M2 justified when you can buy a 2022 vehicle, faster and with way better tech for the same money? (uglier though)
I feel hard to justify 45K for 5 year old cars.
At least in Canada, a lightly optioned M240i is easily over $10K more than an OG M2 and is in 2020 M2C territory. Also, my wife and I still prefer a manual car which is not available in the M240i (I actually like the look of them - they kept the wide hips of the M2 - and the option of something other than black for interior is a bonus). That said, I guess there is still an aura around the "real" M cars which helps with desirability (and resale)? Time will tell...
Agree with both the aura of a true M car AND manual transmission.

M-lite cars are tremendous examples, and while the ZF8 speed is fantastic, the analog feel of rowing gears is what drove me to an M2 versus a new M240i.

Yes, the new M240i exceeds a lot of what an OG M2 provides. It's all what you value.
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      12-02-2021, 10:26 AM   #136
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if it wasnt for covid a nice LCI would be in the 35-40K range, now that everything is +10K it sounds more financially sensible to go for the new M240i route.

is the "M" aura a real thing for daily driving or is it an impression we feel once the badge is there?
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      12-02-2021, 02:53 PM   #137
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How would you compare a brand new M240i ($52,000 delivered with good specs) vs a '17/18 M2 (OG/LCI) for about the same price? 45-50K.

Is this crazy hype about the non-comp M2 justified when you can buy a 2022 vehicle, faster and with way better tech for the same money? (uglier though)
I feel hard to justify 45K for 5 year old cars.
You bring up a great point when comparing the bang for your buck. I think it all comes down to what you personally value. I recently purchased a 2018 M2 and have to admit I entertained a new M240i for a short time. However, my subjective option is that the F87 M2 exterior looks way better from every angle. I'm not someone who places a lot of emphasis on interiors, so that was irrelevant to me. I also love the engagement of driving a manual car, which was ultimately the biggest factor influencing my decision. That's not to say the new M240i with auto isn't a phenomenal package, it just wasn't for me. I don't think there is a "right" or "wrong" choice when comparing these two vehicles, just personal preferences.
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You bring up a great point when comparing the bang for your buck. I think it all comes down to what you personally value. I recently purchased a 2018 M2 and have to admit I entertained a new M240i for a short time.
i have been following the M2 market for quite long as a OG/LCI is on my short list. Judging from the adds i see that one needs to be above the $45K zone to get something "decent". I went to the dealership to see the G42 and there is way more value for an extra $5K.

The point I want to make is that it looks that we follow the "M" train and not the performance/ tech /value / reliability reasoning. It would be very inserting to see a real test between G42 and an LCI as both cars cost $50K while being 4 years part.

Sure the G42 will depreciate fast but what will happen to the OG prices once the G87 is out
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You bring up a great point when comparing the bang for your buck. I think it all comes down to what you personally value. I recently purchased a 2018 M2 and have to admit I entertained a new M240i for a short time.
i have been following the M2 market for quite long as a OG/LCI is on my short list. Judging from the adds i see that one needs to be above the $45K zone to get something "decent". I went to the dealership to see the G42 and there is way more value for an extra $5K.

The point I want to make is that it looks that we follow the "M" train and not the performance/ tech /value / reliability reasoning. It would be very inserting to see a real test between G42 and an LCI as both cars cost $50K while being 4 years part.

Sure the G42 will depreciate fast but what will happen to the OG prices once the G87 is out
You probably hit the nail on the head that some people will choose an M car simply because it's an M line, regardless of whether it is the best value. I would also anticipate there being a fair amount of people, like myself, who select the OG M2 because they want a RWD, manual transmission, party on wheels that makes them smile every time they hear that N55 exhaust note. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but "value" is probably defined differently across the spectrum of BMW owners.
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      12-02-2021, 08:28 PM   #140
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I was also pondering what will happen to the OG M2 prices when the G87 comes out - looking at some other brand trends (Lotus Evora, Porsche air / water cooled, Acura NSX), I wouldn't be surprised if they stay steady or actually climb a tiny bit. I don't see them tanking in price like some of the M-line cars have.

Is there better value out there? Sure, depending on what you consider value. Are there faster cars out there? Yup. Does the M2 put as big a smile on my face driving it as my old 964 did? Yes, and then some!

Bottom line is, the M2 is a complete blast to drive plain and simple and will be for a long time to come and that is key to it's appeal. As the newest (most expensive) versions of the M2 come out, interest piques and people often go to the "next best, but cheaper, thing" - so, M2C will see even more demand as will the OG M2, especially for those that love the N55 engine.
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As the newest (most expensive) versions of the M2 come out, interest piques and people often go to the "next best, but cheaper, thing" - so, M2C will see even more demand as will the OG M2, especially for those that love the N55 engine.
Hard to see how a $61-63K G87 M2 will make the M2C more expensive than they are today. unless it comes as a full digital beast with an ICE, then people might jump on the 1st gen M2's as the "last analogue" good looking M car.
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Hard to see how a $61-63K G87 M2 will make the M2C more expensive than they are today. unless it comes as a full digital beast with an ICE, then people might jump on the 1st gen M2's as the "last analogue" good looking M car.
True, I thought the G87 was going to list higher.
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      01-01-2022, 05:25 PM   #143
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True, I thought the G87 was going to list higher.
Agreed, while the G80/82 starting at $77k, I would bet the G87 price at least high $60k.
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      01-01-2022, 05:42 PM   #144
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According to this dealership video, the price of the M3 is going up $2500. on cars built after Jan. 1, 2022. Most other models are also getting a price bump.

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      01-01-2022, 08:27 PM   #145
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How would you compare a brand new M240i ($52,000 delivered with good specs) vs a '17/18 M2 (OG/LCI) for about the same price? 45-50K.

Is this crazy hype about the non-comp M2 justified when you can buy a 2022 vehicle, faster and with way better tech for the same money? (uglier though)
I feel hard to justify 45K for 5 year old cars.
Boy do I have a video for you!

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      03-23-2022, 03:19 PM   #146
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I got my LBB OG M2 in early November 2021 w 10k miles for 54k.
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2017-2018 M2s are around $60k cad in my area. They were only $63k cad new wtf lol.

Do you think prices on these will drop when the new M2 is out? I can't imagine 60k for a 4-5 year old car when a brand new way better one will probably only be $78k
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      05-31-2022, 09:37 AM   #148
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Is it just me or did OG prices edge even higher over the past 3-6 months?

I was thinking 50k was the ceiling for lightly used OG M2s but see some trading in the 50s?

Is a black 2017 slicktop 6MT with 18k miles really a 53-55k car to the right person?
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