[akkando]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

Interesting that my cluster looks different from yours.

That looks like the m2 cluster not m2c. Different engine different cluster.

[BlkSVT]

Not that this is a good reason to deemphasize redline, but this M2C is an oddball IMO -- it's turbo'd, with good low-end torque, but has a fairly high redline for a turbo, more in line w/an NA motor.

That being said, having bounced rev limiters (much too) frequently in my past NA and SC'd cars, I've never hit the limiter in the M2c.

Stock, it just stops pulling to the point where it doesn't feel worth wringing out to redline. I just don't find myself having to pay attention to the tach as on every past car because you can tell you're >7k and things have plateaued

Read: I need a tune!

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

I was more looking at the difference in graphics, the ///M vs ///M2 and the efficiency details at the bottom.

M2 vs M is a variation that came out with the M2C. The efficiency gauges on the bottom is what the M2 and M2C came standard, however, you can turn it off on the OG M2 and on the M2C you can change it so it shows the individual customizable settings for steering and throttle which the OG M2 does not have.

[nomoracin]

Originally Posted by BlkSVT

Not that this is a good reason to deemphasize redline, but this M2C is an oddball IMO -- it's turbo'd, with good low-end torque, but has a fairly high redline for a turbo, more in line w/an NA motor.

That being said, having bounced rev limiters (much too) frequently in my past NA and SC'd cars, I've never hit the limiter in the M2c.

Stock, it just stops pulling to the point where it doesn't feel worth wringing out to redline. I just don't find myself having to pay attention to the tach as on every past car because you can tell you're >7k and things have plateaued

Read: I need a tune!

I agree with you.

I've had my car for over a year now and have yet to find myself near the redline...even with stage 1.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Ok, so here are the pics. It is colored at the redline and you can see it with my car in the garage on a dark day. one pic is with the headlights on, other is with them off. I guess it is really dim and not backlit, so its hard to see when outside and driving.

I fail to see the issue? There's a redline at ~7400rpm. Perhaps a trip to the eye doctor is in order?

Also if you think this gauge is poorly lit, boy do I have news for you:

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1258632

[MR RIZK]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

I fail to see the issue? There's a redline at ~7400rpm. Perpahs a trip to the eye doctor is in order?

Maybe he is looking at the speedometer and not the tachometer.

Not the greatest cluster but does the job

[Poochie]

I know it doesn't solve the problem at hand but hang in there people; BMW is phasing in all their clusters to be digital.

It's even easy to code them to different variants available.

Below is a M340i coded to M5 cluster interface within 5 mins

Alpina & i8 is also available..

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Maybe he is looking at the speedometer and not the tachometer.

Not the greatest cluster but does the job

If visibility is still an issue with the updated cluster and the obvious sound cues one gets from the engine I would suggest the steering wheel with built-in shift lights. If that doesn't help IDK what will.

[BlkSVT]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I know it doesn't solve the problem at hand but hang in there people; BMW is phasing in all their clusters to be digital.

It's even easy to code them to different variants available.

Below is a M340i coded to M5 cluster interface within 5 mins

Alpina & i8 is also available..

Had an M340i loaner on my last service, and other than it feeling impressively quick, too large, and mostly numb/uninspired, the biggest takeaway was the horrid instrument cluster.

Despite a love for video games, and a respecting nostalgia for traditional gauge clusters, the M340i offends both

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by BlkSVT

Had an M340i loaner on my last service, and other than it feeling impressively quick, too large, and mostly numb/uninspired, the biggest takeaway was the horrid instrument cluster.

Despite a love for video games, and a respecting nostalgia for traditional gauge clusters, the M340i offends both

Well, you can't stop progress and digital clusters is currently all the rage in the auto industry.

So it's going to be one of those take it or leave it situations pretty soon.

I admit, it is an acquired taste but you get use to it after awhile and dare I say maybe even love it.

[JonD]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I know it doesn't solve the problem at hand but hang in there people; BMW is phasing in all their clusters to be digital.

It's even easy to code them to different variants available.

Below is a M340i coded to M5 cluster interface within 5 mins

Alpina & i8 is also available..

Now a retrofit of the G series live cockpit into the F87 would be pretty cool

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

So, I've noticed that the redline does not light up on my odo. what gives? This is true in manual or "auto" mode with DCT, Car has about 250 miles on it.
Thanks

Originally Posted by BigKutta

I think maybe I wasn't clear. Usually the redline is marked on the odo. For example, at 7k rpm the odometer gauge marking are red to indicate that this is redline. There is no such marking on my car. This is present on every car I have owned (including my Audi, F10, MB ML, etc.).
And no, I'm not talking about shift lights.
And no, at 250 miles I'm not looking to redline my car. Am just curious

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Even still, shouldn't my gauge show the where redline is?

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Ok, so here are the pics. [...]

Quick test, OP: do you notice any shape below ?

[BigKutta]

LOL...guys funny responses. Look honestly, you can see it because it was in my dark garage. As others have said its fairly faint and I had a hard time seeing it outside. Even with the lights turned on it doesnt get brighter.

Well, at least they are there...

[iooal3xooi]

Have you tried adjusting the brightness?

[natmad]

Yeah, when I first got my M2C, I thought, wow, the redline isn’t very noticeable.

Less noticeable than any manual car I’ve had in the past.

I’ve learned to shift when the needle gets to horizontal, about where the power drops off anyway.

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Well, you can't stop progress and digital clusters is currently all the rage in the auto industry.

So it's going to be one of those take it or leave it situations pretty soon.

I admit, it is an acquired taste but you get use to it after awhile and dare I say maybe even love it.

Digital isn't the issue, it's BMW implementation. Looks way to busy.

The cluster in the 992 911 is the best imho.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

Digital isn't the issue, it's BMW implementation. Looks way to busy.

The cluster in the 992 911 is the best imho.

I guess that's a matter of opinion.

The 911 cluster has a more simplistic layout but BMW's digital setup, although it is "busy" I really don't believe it's that bad, once you get use to it. "Love" might be a strong word but I could grow to like it.

I look forward to see what they do with it for the next generation M2. I'm a tech junky, so I'm hoping stuff like Night-Vision gets added in.
A digital cluster pretty much set the stage for such advancements, something an analogy-like cluster could never even dream of.

[msdss]

Hold up. I have a 2020 M2C (USDM / 6MT) ... I have no red lines... Am I supposed to? WTF? I always thought it was lame that it didn't light up in MDM mode like my M3.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

LOL...guys funny responses. Look honestly, you can see it because it was in my dark garage. As others have said its fairly faint and I had a hard time seeing it outside. Even with the lights turned on it doesnt get brighter.

There's a knob on the right end of the headlight switch that scrolls up and down. This will adjust the brightness of the gauge cluster. You probably have it turned all the way down without knowing it.

[Triple Seven]

Can barely see mine if not at all, especially when day light is reflecting on the bezel in that area.

[Moflow]

Originally Posted by BlkSVT

Not that this is a good reason to deemphasize redline, but this M2C is an oddball IMO -- it's turbo'd, with good low-end torque, but has a fairly high redline for a turbo, more in line w/an NA motor.

That being said, having bounced rev limiters (much too) frequently in my past NA and SC'd cars, I've never hit the limiter in the M2c.

Stock, it just stops pulling to the point where it doesn't feel worth wringing out to redline. I just don't find myself having to pay attention to the tach as on every past car because you can tell you're >7k and things have plateaued

Read: I need a tune!

Lol, I’ve bounced off the limiter a couple of times. I love that the engine can rev out on this car, it’s a major reason I prefer this power plant to the N55.

It’s a little bit “best of both worlds” lots of torque but still the ability to make power above 7k. If you look at dyno graphs, the peak power plateaus for a good long while before actually dropping off. Now, that’s a result of BMW nerfing the engine, but they also did it in the kindest way possible. The end result is way more “area under the curve” than a 400 hp car has any right having. You can almost make peak power the entire time you’re in a gear if you’re shifting close to the redline.

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by Triple Seven

Can barely see mine if not at all, especially when day light is reflecting on the bezel in that area.

This exactly. I just drove a good 75 miles in daylight and could barely see it. But its there as the pics showed