[StickyPickle]

https://youtu.be/ek5St_thC2U

[m2ss]

All this F87 vs G87 reminds me of the 993 vs 996 debate two decades ago...

Myth-busting time, then. Is the 993 really a better car? Objectively, no: the 996 is faster, stiffer, safer and more efficient. Surprisingly, it’s actually lighter too. However, sports cars are subjective; a Porsche should feed the senses and stir the soul.

Which one would you take?

[Swish77]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

This last weekend I traded my F87C for a G87.
If we're strictly talking about the looks of the car, both cars have their merits. I love the F87C, I think it's one of the best M cars ever, it's that good. And I love the bulldog stance. They got it right with the car, simple as that. It's beautiful, muscular, has a timeless design.
I had a tough time with the design of the G87 because in photos, it looked like crap. It has odd angles and if you're using a wide lens or something, yikes.
However in real life, the car looks menacing. I got it in BSM and it looks like a freaking DTM hotrod with the super wide flares. Parking in my garage, I can say that it is wider than the F87C, like by a lot.
Will it be a legend like the F87? Who knows? Looks wise, it's you have to see it before judging it.

What got me to buy it was driving it, man the G87 is sweet. It drives so damn well it is honestly, mind blowing. Truly, it's badass and this is coming from someone who absolutely loved his F87C.
You can find pictures here: https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2011109
Let me know what questions you may have.

You got the right color, especially if you have the carbon package. (I can't stand that two-tone roof/body look.) Too bad there's no slick-top option.

All the odd angles vanish into one cool-looking package in black. I think red (with the sun roof, not carbon package) looks OK, but yes, black is badass in this body style.

How are you dealing with that ID8 dash? I tried it out on a loaner for a weekend on a 5-series and hated it. I need at least some analog stuff.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Swish77

You got the right color, especially if you have the carbon package. (I can't stand that two-tone roof/body look.) Too bad there's no slick-top option.

All the odd angles vanish into one cool-looking package in black. I think red (with the sun roof, not carbon package) looks OK, but yes, black is badass in this body style.

How are you dealing with that ID8 dash? I tried it out on a loaner for a weekend on a 5-series and hated it. I need at least some analog stuff.

Firstly, I'm not a huge fan of touch screens. I hate seeing finger prints. I always use the iDrive wheel in my F87C or F80. iDrive 8 on the other hand, you have to use the touch screen. As much as I hate the idea, in practice, it is exactly the same as having physical buttons. You just have to touch the screen instead. In my years of using iDrive 6, I would always take my eyes off the road because you have to look at the screen regardless. The same with the buttons, it's not like you have the exact muscle memory to not look at what you are touching. It would be like if you were to blindfold yourself and try to use the system, you can't. It honestly doesn't actually make much of a difference when interacting with the system.
On the positive side, the user interface and the graphics are state of the art. Simply put, they're amazing. I'm somewhat used to it now? Maybe? There's still a learning curve but it's a fun system to play with.

[BMW 16 5-0]

Photos of the new M2 make it look like Sid the Sloth! The front end is horrible, however, it does look better in person but it doesn't compare to the M2C.

The interior is sweet except for the HUGE mono screen for an infotainment system and odd/speedo combination. It looks silly.

I am absolutely in love with my F87 M2C and I don't think I will ever get rid of it!

[ROBM2C]

Are you allowed to like them both :P

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by ROBM2C

Are you allowed to like them both :P

Of course...

[Doctor Sbaitso]

G87 to me looks too much like a Nissan Maxima.

[FMOS Racing]

Saw a black G87 in motion this past weekend (being tailed by SO F87). Some of the angularity works, especially murdered out. I'd own it over an M4 from a cosmetic and dimensions standpoint.

[M2MIDNIGHTBLUE]

Went for a drive today in the G87 while owning the F87. G87 in person not as bad as in photos, more street presence with the size and controversial looks. The drive in my opinion was amazing, besides the same M2 badging i felt the two are totally different cars. Both has its merits and if i had to make a conclusion after the drive it is the F87 is an amazing toy and G87 is an amazing machine. Here are some photos to pick your brain.

[t6m]

Something about the G, maybe the longer looking hood, just screams Z4 to me. IMO the F Comp hits the proportions and aggressiveness just right, along with keeping somewhat traditional BMW styling. Biased of course 😜, I'm sure the G is an amazing ride, but happy at the moment with F.

[ironray]

I did not like the G87 when it was released in pictures but seen one the other day in black and it looks menacing on the road. I’m not fond of black but I would only purchase this car in black

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by t6m

Something about the G, maybe the longer looking hood, just screams Z4 to me. IMO the F Comp hits the proportions and aggressiveness just right, along with keeping somewhat traditional BMW styling. Biased of course 😜, I'm sure the G is an amazing ride, but happy at the moment with F.

My thoughts as well, it doesn't flow as well as the F, very Lego like.

Black hides many of the unattractive bits and with the proper drop/spacers and or wheels would look much better IMHO.

[///MPhatic]

Ignoring the egregiously terrible front and rear, the car just has weird dimensions where sections are too long, too thick, or just plain catch the light in bad ways.

[murderspice]

F87 is just pretty out of the box.

[Silverlining_m2]

I've had both. There's many reasons to like both. I like reading both forums because the amount of vitriol between groups is comical. If you made me pick, having HAD BOTH, I'd choose the g87. I am more into a touring car, than a shifty little drifty car. Personal preference. It's better than the f82 I had in that regard too. S58 is amazing to me. I have m sport suspension and it looks a lot better than the monster truck stance it comes on. Same with my f87 though. Stock for stock, I think the g87 is superior, and yes I was taken aback by all the g series designs when released. With that said, the g87 is easily my favorite. Here's both. Cheers to anyone lucky enough to have either car.

(I'd have chosen black or grey over blue, because the amount of positive attention zandvoort gets is literally ridiculous. I can't go anywhere without someone talking to me about it, or taking pics. More attention than expected. And on that note the blue is very difficult to shoot properly, whereas hockenheim can handle an edit and still look like it's real color).

[m2ss]

^^^ The F87 looks so much better it's not even funny...

[nismosao]

Originally Posted by m2ss

^^^ The F87 looks so much better it's not even funny...

Right!! The G87 may be a better platform with obviously the beastly S58. Buttttt……looks wise there is no comparison, F87 blows it away.

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by nismosao

Right!! The G87 may be a better platform with obviously the beastly S58. Buttttt……looks wise there is no comparison, F87 blows it away.

I understand appearance is totally subjective so to each their own but for me I find the G87 hasn't grown on me one bit like other altered BMWs of the past.

I find it does look best in all black, not sure that's a compliment...

[veenut28]

I don’t think the G87 looks bad, but it suffers by comparison to the F87 which is one of the best modern BMW designs. I can appreciate what they were aiming for with the boxy angularity but it just doesn’t hold up against the former M2’s curves. Still, better than the G80/82 whose front end still looks terrible.

[Doctor Sbaitso]

I recall seeing someone say that the G87 looks like the generic GTA-5 rip of itself.

For me I look at it and I see a 2000s Nissan Maxima in the front & shoulders.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Silverlining_m2

I've had both. There's many reasons to like both. I like reading both forums because the amount of vitriol between groups is comical. If you made me pick, having HAD BOTH, I'd choose the g87. I am more into a touring car, than a shifty little drifty car. Personal preference. It's better than the f82 I had in that regard too. S58 is amazing to me. I have m sport suspension and it looks a lot better than the monster truck stance it comes on. Same with my f87 though. Stock for stock, I think the g87 is superior, and yes I was taken aback by all the g series designs when released. With that said, the g87 is easily my favorite. Here's both. Cheers to anyone lucky enough to have either car.

Don't you dare bring your sound logic into this. The G87 may be substantially faster, offer more grip, ride substantially better, have a next level interior, better shifter, better seating position, carbin fiber roof, $30K seats (yes, thats how much they cost if you try to buy them at the parts counter), gets compliments virtually every time its driven, Yada Yada Yada, but it won't have one thing, the approval of a bitter F87 owner.
I also have owned both and completely agree with you, as many many others do. Does that make the F87 a bad car? No, of course not. It's going to go down as one of BMWs best. Especially the Competition model. It was peak BMW and will for sure be a classic. If I could have both, I would, I think a lot of G series owners would.