[Artemis]

Originally Posted by deceptiv-cs

In before the g80 fans come and say the g80 has instantly aged the f87 by 100 years.

Let’s not mention how it’s nearly double the damn size

Commented earlier:

Originally Posted by Artemis

2010: the E82 1M was launched, lauded and applauded.

2020: the G80 M3 / G82 M4 was launched and lynched.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by PS.08

First time seeing the new M cars in person....and boy am I happy with my choice.

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Oh dear

[specracer]

I had no plans to buy a 2 CS. Having an F80 M3, and 2 E90's before, I was on a crash course for a G80. I have been ambivalent about the aesthetics since the launch photos. I now have seen the G80, and I am VERY happy I went with an "impulse" buy of the CS. Getting past the looks of the G80, the car has gotten HUGE, and heavy. When I saw the G80 last weekend, there was also a CS next to it (not ours), and it really drove home how the 3 series has grown. Be interesting to see an E39 M5 next to a G80. The 3 series has become the 5 series of yesterday.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

Oh dear

no dear, just a giant beaver, which in a previous life was a little Bimmer.

[Wah]

My reaction to the G82 reveal was the exact opposite of my reaction to the Aurum Dust M4 reveal at pebble beach in 2013. It was pretty clear from the beginning that I was skipping this generation's M4. The M2CS is perfect (aside from the lack of comfort access )

[mchart]

Originally Posted by M2CS

It's clear to me now that the new M4 will look the best in black and dark colors so that there's less contrast around the grill. I don't think the overall shape of the car is terrible, but that front end doesn't look good with that much contrast.

The front area just extends way too far past the front wheels now. Even if you fix the beaver twooths. It looks more like an Audi now.

I think it's a safe bet they are preparing us for a FWD based hybrid thing in the future given how bloated the new design is.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Wah

The M2CS is perfect (aside from the lack of comfort access )

You should feel comforted that you have access to the M2 CS; there's your comfort access

[Wah]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

You should feel comforted that you have access to the M2 CS; there's your comfort access

True... true.

But seriously, I have been well trained over the years by BMW to touch the handle to lock/unlock. And then they pull this like some kind of sick joke.

I honestly didn't think it would be an issue, but yesterday I must have tried to touch the handle every damn time I went into my car and was seriously considering the Bimmer-tech comfort access kit.

[ptgltw]

Originally Posted by Wah

True... true.

But seriously, I have been well trained over the years by BMW to touch the handle to lock/unlock. And then they pull this like some kind of sick joke.

I honestly didn't think it would be an issue, but yesterday I must have tried to touch the handle every damn time I went into my car and was seriously considering the Bimmer-tech comfort access kit.

I do it also then realize it’s a special car and smile that I’m lucky enough to own such a car. Do I wish it had comfort access sure do, haha

[ChiTownM]

Originally Posted by M2CS

It's clear to me now that the new M4 will look the best in black and dark colors so that there's less contrast around the grill. I don't think the overall shape of the car is terrible, but that front end doesn't look good with that much contrast.

I have the same reaction. Some actually look quite good here on the board in dark colors, still struggle with the M4 side and rear profile though. The question that is more interesting is about the driving dynamics and feel and power delivery. Some short clips rave about those aspects.

I have priced out a manual M3 and it is the same pricepoint as the CS. I started with the e36 and have the base (no options single hump) e92....and felt the CS is the next step of evolution in that family tree. But the new platform is very tempting. So it is classic vs progression maybe, for design and the entire vehicle?!?!

[ben1233]

Originally Posted by specracer

I had no plans to buy a 2 CS. Having an F80 M3, and 2 E90's before, I was on a crash course for a G80. I have been ambivalent about the aesthetics since the launch photos. I now have seen the G80, and I am VERY happy I went with an "impulse" buy of the CS. Getting past the looks of the G80, the car has gotten HUGE, and heavy. When I saw the G80 last weekend, there was also a CS next to it (not ours), and it really drove home how the 3 series has grown. Be interesting to see an E39 M5 next to a G80. The 3 series has become the 5 series of yesterday.

Funny, I was exactly like you..1000% locked and loaded on a G80. 3 previous M3s/M4s. No intentions of an M2 CS but there one sat at a local dealership unsold. 6MT, BSM, gold wheels. It's now sitting in my garage as of 7 days ago. I expected it to drive basically the same more or less from the F80. Wow was I wrong. Even in the 15 mile drive home, I could tell it was a different animal and I am so happy with it. I'm most surprised by the clutch. Seems like a totally different unit. But maybe the M2C is this way, too?

Questions for you (and anyone else): 1) Do you find you have to shut the doors harder than on the F80? The F80 doors seemed pretty light touch but on the M2 they take a bit more of a slam to close completely. 2) Brakes squeaking under medium pedal pressure. Could be because of only 15 miles on the clock? Squeak goes away under light and harder pressure. Is this something to worry about or no?

Congrats on your decision and purchase!

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by ben1233

The F80 doors seemed pretty light touch but on the M2 they take a bit more of a slam to close completely.

The seal on the M2 is better. Open the windows of both cars and close the doors, they are the same.

[AxM2CS]

Originally Posted by specracer

... Be interesting to see an E39 M5 next to a G80. The 3 series has become the 5 series of yesterday.

You're not being fair to my beloved E39! The G80 M3 is same height but longer, wider and, mostly, heavier:

Dimensions (ft) M2CS E39 540i G80 M3
Length 14.64 15.68 15.73
Width 6.14 5.91 6.24
Height 4.64 4.72 4.70

Weight (lb) 3,417 3,660 3,759

When I look out the front of the house from upstairs I'm struck by the fact that the M2CS and 540i don't look significantly different in size. It's just possible to discern that the E39 is longer. The biggest visual differences are the wheels (my aftermarket BBS RS-GT 18" wheels visually look much smaller than the 763M's) and, of course, the 4 vs. 2 doors (but the E39 doors are much smaller). And the CS is prettier :-)

[IndyMike]

It's like deja-vu all over again. Back in 2001 they launched the E65 7er with the "Bangle butt", followed by the E60 5er "Dame Edna" look, and finally the E63 6er. I still feel a small amount of spittle and bile welling up in my innards when I come across those ugly relics.

These newer models were probably created by Design(Doesn't)Works in Asia. Can't really blame them for designing for this market. 1.7 trillion Chinese (disclaimer: pending 2030 census) can't all be wrong.

[msmatt]

Originally Posted by ben1233

Funny, I was exactly like you..1000% locked and loaded on a G80. 3 previous M3s/M4s. No intentions of an M2 CS but there one sat at a local dealership unsold. 6MT, BSM, gold wheels. It's now sitting in my garage as of 7 days ago. I expected it to drive basically the same more or less from the F80. Wow was I wrong. Even in the 15 mile drive home, I could tell it was a different animal and I am so happy with it. I'm most surprised by the clutch. Seems like a totally different unit. But maybe the M2C is this way, too?

Questions for you (and anyone else): 1) Do you find you have to shut the doors harder than on the F80? The F80 doors seemed pretty light touch but on the M2 they take a bit more of a slam to close completely. 2) Brakes squeaking under medium pedal pressure. Could be because of only 15 miles on the clock? Squeak goes away under light and harder pressure. Is this something to worry about or no?

Congrats on your decision and purchase!

Congrats! Before my CS arrived I read a lot of comments about heavy doors, but don’t really notice a huge difference to the F80, just longer.

For the brakes, you need to bed them in, do a few medium braking speed runs and get them nice and worked in. They are a little squeakier than the M3, but nothing out of the ordinary for a big brake car.

[(K)]

A strange step for the design language. I like the headlights but the overall details are very busy. I saw some aftermarket concepts that bring back the more traditional BMW design language and I gotta say it works very well.

Maybe this generation will go down like the Bangle era BMWs; in 5-10 years we'll grow to appreciate it.

Doubtful.

[mchart]

Originally Posted by (K)

A strange step for the design language. I like the headlights but the overall details are very busy. I saw some aftermarket concepts that bring back the more traditional BMW design language and I gotta say it works very well.

Maybe this generation will go down like the Bangle era BMWs; in 5-10 years we'll grow to appreciate it.

Doubtful.

Highly doubt it. People marginally complained about that era of BMW, but it was never over-the-top.

This design is just too loud, and it won't age well. I mostly say that because it looks like any other major Asian brand at this point. If you took the BMW badge off, i'd tell you it was a new design for a Hyundai Genesis Coupe, Kia Stinger, or some sort of Chinese brand.

And I personally never had a problem with that era of BMW.

[Germanauto]

In white the G8X looks like a friggin Halloween scream costume.

[dgm3]

Originally Posted by PS.08

First time seeing the new M cars in person....and boy am I happy with my choice.

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The CS looks like a SUV especially on the first pic... What is the difference in height ?

[Black Prinz]

Originally Posted by PS.08

First time seeing the new M cars in person....and boy am I happy with my choice.

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Outside of the grille & hood/bonnet I see a lot of Alfa Romeo Giulia similarities.

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[PS.08]

Originally Posted by dgm3

The CS looks like a SUV especially on the first pic... What is the difference in height ?

It's just the angle of the first pic, there was not much height difference.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by IndyMike

It's like deja-vu all over again. Back in 2001 they launched the E65 7er with the "Bangle butt", followed by the E60 5er "Dame Edna" look, and finally the E63 6er. I still feel a small amount of spittle and bile welling up in my innards when I come across those ugly relics.

These newer models were probably created by Design(Doesn't)Works in Asia. Can't really blame them for designing for this market. 1.7 trillion Chinese (disclaimer: pending 2030 census) can't all be wrong.

For over a thousand years, the Church burnt at the stake any heretic proclaiming Earth to be round, and so a billion Christians believed Earth to be flat.

In 2030 after the Census is done, 2.4 quadrillion Chinese will realise how bloody wrong they were;

[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"] beavers belong to the forest, Bimmers to the mountains[/COLOR]