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Unfortunately, your worst fear has been confirmed, no Comfort Access in the CS For the life of me, I can't figure out why they would omit such as awesome feature and I'm not buying the weight reduction claim, that's just incomprehensible.. However, some folks were successfully able to retrofit it. Something I would never attempt, simple because I'm anal about ripping apart my brand new vehicle, especially a limited production vehicle as the CS, which should be on its way to achieve collectors status within a few years. |
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11-07-2019, 12:36 AM | #48 |
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It is probably just me but I like having the storage at the center console and I kinda like the M2C seats with no holes so that my six year old can’t poke me from the back seat. Most other CF upgrades are easy to add to the M2 as others mentioned.
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11-07-2019, 12:43 AM | #49 | |
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And the lack of armrest has been discussed, ad nauseam, in the M4 section. Feel free to commiserate. CS Owners - Is the lack of center armrest annoying? https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577449 |
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11-07-2019, 08:29 AM | #51 |
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Let's be honest there, a very very small percentage of people with performance oriented cars couldn't care less about lap times. The CS is supposed to be a more refined and faster version of the Comp, but all most people care about is the exclusivity. It's about looking cool at your nearest mall or local Cars and Coffee. It's a shame that the majority of CS's will spend their lives being cooped up in the garage collecting dust rather than being driven, or god forbid see any track time.
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I looked it over and even being a 30 year Porsche 911 customer found its price point of (more $$ for less) performance advantage over the M4C confusing. I am use to paying up for aluminum door handles, additional leather parts, and colored gauges in Porsche 911 land but BMW marketing the CS doesn’t appeal to me and it should. I am their demographic. Saying the car has extensive weight savings only to find out the amount of weight it saved in a passenger car was negligible. Carbon fiber this and carbon fiber that add on parts does not make a car effectively lighter to gain any tangible performance. It’s a cosmetic makeover to “look” more like a hardcore track car. You want to get serious about saving weight, pull all the seats and sound insulation out and leave one the drivers seat. To take the comfort access out to save weight is laughable. Porsche is just as guilty with the carbon fiber roofs on the new Cayenne coupe being heavier as it requires more bracing. I can take the valve stems off my M forged wheels and now I can say they are extra light weight wheels. Last edited by MystroX5; 11-07-2019 at 10:24 AM.. |
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Is the net 18lb weight loss because the adaptive suspension is heavier? The first thing I thought about when I read the press release is that I've always read adaptive suspensions are heavier, and that would wipe out some of the weight loss.
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11-07-2019, 11:17 AM | #58 | |
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You'd be happier and probably richer if you bought the m2c and actually drove it over 15 years and put the difference in cost in a fund for 15 years, than buying an m2cs and driving it minimally over 15 years hoping to sell it for more than you paid after inflation. |
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I'm not entirely surprised it weights the same(ish) as the M2C. Still though, if it's within reach for people, it's still going to be a great car. |
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Apparently the aluminum adaptive struts are lighter than the standard ones, but then you have to add in the electricals (and whatever else) that makes them function, so that savings is going to be offset again. The M Perf exhaust is also going to be saving a couple pounds over stock. Honestly, if they would've thrown a smaller battery in, the weight savings would look way more impressive. Now that I think about it, how the hell does the M2 weigh anywhere near 3500 pounds...? Where is all of that weight coming from? |
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I don't think the hood on the M2C is aluminum, I could be wrong. The 763M wheels save quite a bit of weight compared to the 788M US issue wheels. So $3,300 minus what you can could sell the 788s for ($1500?) would get you close to the same weight right there. Add the CF hood for fun and a tune and you're off to the races.
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There's really few things about the CS that make it a compelling purchase when you could save that $$ on a M2C tune and raiding some carbon parts to get it 95% there (and I prefer IND mods anyway to the m performance). At that price point I'd be more in the market for a Cayman 718 GT4 tbh
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I'll take the CF roof and Cup 2s on my M2c and call it a day.
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11-07-2019, 02:19 PM | #66 | |
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So basically it's a $20-25K delta between the M2 to M2CS and then same for M2CS to GT4.
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