[Flying Ace]

you M2 owners are all posers. I will bet you a playstation 3 that I can drive my M6 faster around the top gear test track simulator faster than your M2 civic tranny with a CF roof post-op.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

you M2 owners are all posers. I will bet you a playstation 3 that I can drive my M6 faster around the top gear test track simulator faster than your M2 civic tranny with a CF roof post-op.

For more hilarity, check out the sunroof vs no sunroof thread.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

For more hilarity, check out the sunroof vs no sunroof thread.

link?

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

link?

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1496152

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by stefan

Smells like this was rushed. Just like the original M2 and even the M2C which have signs of a hack job in some ways. it's also what makes them great.

I agree, it was an afterthought. Which indicates the M2 was never designed with the CF roof in mind. Obviously the factory was not tooled for this install as part of an assembly line process.

You know how it goes with any of these companies. The marketing people think..."hey, it'll be great to do this and that"..."now engineers, you guys go figure out how to do it, and btw, the bean counters say you cannot do it for more than $X". So the engineers think and think and come up with this hack job solution, well, bc it's the only damn way of peeling a roof off and putting another one in.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1496152

There, I just added my thoughts in it. Be prepared for a meltdown in 3...2...1...

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Tag

Not a bad theory and would be right in line with the progress of the M2.

Progress...
2016 - M2
2017 - M2 Performance Edition
2017 - M2 LCI
2018 - M2 Black Shadow Edition
2018 - M2 Competition

Further progress (Coming soon...)
2019 - M2 Competition w/cf roof (f87.bimmerpost.com mini meltdown)
2019 - M2 CS (f87.bimmerpost.com total meltdown)

MY20 S58, I mean BMW is always going to make progress with new cars, nothing new or unexpected there.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by Tag

Not a bad theory and would be right in line with the progress of the M2.

Progress...
2016 - M2
2017 - M2 Performance Edition
2017 - M2 LCI
2018 - M2 Black Shadow Edition
2018 - M2 Competition

Further progress (Coming soon...)
2019 - M2 Competition w/cf roof (f87.bimmerpost.com mini meltdown)
2019 - M2 CS (f87.bimmerpost.com total meltdown)

what if in 2020, they somehow cram the S63 into the M2? f87.bimmerpost will go straight into "Now this is what it's like when worlds collide" mode?

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by akkando

MY20 S58, I mean BMW is always going to make progress with new cars, nothing new or unexpected there.

Not happening. S58 first in X3M and X4M. Then G8x M3 and M4. Next possibility is next generation M2, which is minimum 3+ years away.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by Tag

Not a bad theory and would be right in line with the progress of the M2.

Progress...
2016 - M2
2017 - M2 Performance Edition
2017 - M2 LCI
2018 - M2 Black Shadow Edition
2018 - M2 Competition

Coming soon
2019 - M2C Performance Editon (US only). The catch is everything is port installed.

[Poochie]

If the next M2 has a S58 TT, Adaptive M Suspension and a factory carbon roof option, I am going to be so tight..

I've been chasing the "perfect" BMW since my 2008 335i. :


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/s...ng-124578.html

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by Poochie

If the next M2 has a S58 TT, Adaptive M Suspension and a factory carbon roof option, I am going to be so tight..

I've been chasing the "perfect" BMW since my 2008 335i. :


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/s...ng-124578.html

This forum will find something wrong with it, first thing will be the price. Don’t worry the wait for the next M2 is 3-4 years. You’ll want a new car by then, at least that is the max of my attention span.

[raysspl]

Send it to IND perhaps

[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by nbennettksu

enjoy your wind noise from the glass being 1/8" thicker due to the double glue.

You can simply remove the old glue from the glass and body, prep, and reinstall without wind noise. They are likely required quote replacement as a requirement in case the glass cracks during removal.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by MilehighM3

You can simply remove the old glue from the glass and body, prep, and reinstall without wind noise. They are likely required quote replacement as a requirement in case the glass cracks during removal.

+1 people act like removing a windshield has never been done before...wtf. The requirement for windscreen cost is probably partly for port install, so they don’t have to worry during removal and to make the jobs easier/quicker.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

+1 people act like removing a windshield has never been done before...wtf. The requirement for windscreen cost is probably partly for port install, so they don't have to worry during removal and to make the jobs easier/quicker.

Agreed. Replacing a windshield is so routine, companies will come to you and do the install in your parking lot. People around here seem to like pushing the concept that your car will never be right once you break the factory seal.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Poochie

If the next M2 has a S58 TT, Adaptive M Suspension and a factory carbon roof option, I am going to be so tight..

I've been chasing the "perfect" BMW since my 2008 335i. :


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/s...ng-124578.html

..


BMW could very well conclude that buyers can't tell the difference between a 2 series and a 4 series. Even at the M LEVEL.. and not even develop a 2 series coupe for the US market in the future. They could go FWD/AWD sedan only for the 2 series next and Try to compete with the A45. Or... They could abandon small cars for SAV/SUV.

At the very best , the as currently planned bext M2 will be RWD and come out around 2022 or some time... after the next M3, and the next M4, which will get full attention from M, and it will get the same hand me downs which would be an S58 drivetrain. But they could decide to make a B58T030 for the entry Level new M2 ... If you are lucky it will have a CF roof. If you are lucky they will still be plucky enough to be in a 4 car model plan and you will know that the "ALL NEW " M2 will be weak and to wait for an "ALL NEW " M2 comp, and you will know there also will be a CS .. and then maybe CSL.. which could be 5 years into the model cycle.

And then suddenly you realize you've never even test driven any single GXX 2 series and wow.. an x3 is the better option for your family because you have been waiting for the perfect M2 for a decade and now you have a wife and three kids!



Sometimes you have to buy the current perfect item and then hold on to it. I've found that The current " perfect item " isn't always brand new on the sales floor.

[Blackfield]

Originally Posted by JLlRacing

Part-Number. 2 449 476 FRONT ATTACHMENT = 1678€ + TAX
Part-Number. 2 449 807 BONNET = 4731,31€ + TAX

If that's correct then BMW just made it easy for me to skip the bonnet swap.

There is no way I would pay $4k for it.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by Blackfield

If that's correct then BMW just made it easy for me to skip the bonnet swap.

There is no way I would pay $4k for it.

The M4 CS/GTS bonnet msrp is $4,755.

I would hope people aren’t expecting discounts because it is a M2. The same reason if BMW makes CS or CSL it is going to be a $90k-$100k+ car. BMW charges a premium for these parts.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Blackfield

If that's correct then BMW just made it easy for me to skip the bonnet swap.

There is no way I would pay $4k for it.

Damn, $5,500 USD for the carbon hood, unpainted.. ??

Is either BMW doesn't care to sell any or just a few or the MP accessories or they really trying to move the M2 to the M4's income tier.

To most of us entry-level folks, those parts are way out of budget, what's the point, BMW?

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Damn, $5,500 USD for the carbon hood, unpainted.. ??

Is either BMW doesn't care to sell any or just a few or the MP accessories or they really trying to move the M2 to the M4's income tier.

To most of us entry-level folks, those parts are way out of budget, what's the point, BMW?

It isn’t a straight money conversion. But I do expect it to be $4k+, like the GTS bonnet.

[Blackfield]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

The M4 CS/GTS bonnet msrp is $4,755.

I would hope people aren’t expecting discounts because it is a M2. The same reason if BMW makes CS or CSL it is going to be a $90k-$100k+ car. BMW charges a premium for these parts.

Then, we can expect the carbon roof to cost as much if not more.
When people see the cost, I am certain more people will bulk even more even if they are OK with the install procedure.

I mentioned the roof install debacle to my wife(not a car person), she did not even realize that our F80 has a carbon roof on it. Needles to say, she vetoed the idea and I don't blame her.