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      10-05-2020, 01:27 AM   #419
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I just got home from a day at The Ridge. Other than April, they’ve been able to host events. Just masks and social distancing, etc.

They’re doing lots of improvements, including a full repave with FIA curbing, garages for rental, and they finished a new clubhouse/ cafe/ classroom building earlier this year.

It’ll look like a totally different place when you’re able to get down here again.

I’m interested in VIMP just to say I’ve been, and it looks like it could be fun.
Yeah, I heard. I just couldn't find any open lapping events. It looks like it's all various racing series.
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I'm flat out hooked on the track, this is my 2nd track day weekend ever.

Just got home from Barber motorsports park with the new pads and added camber. Definitely going to have to buy track wheels and tires as I'm Gonna destroy these PS4S.

Had an instructor the whole weekend, got lucky as he was amazing to work with and a bmw guy as well at a PCA event.

Ran 2:01 best first session and then got down to a 1:48 before blowing the charge pipe off a STOCK car on back straight.


The PFC08 pads stop! I brake late with them for sure.


This car continues to impress me and my friends in crazier cars
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I'm flat out hooked on the track, this is my 2nd track day weekend ever.

Just got home from Barber motorsports park with the new pads and added camber. Definitely going to have to buy track wheels and tires as I'm Gonna destroy these PS4S.

Had an instructor the whole weekend, got lucky as he was amazing to work with and a bmw guy as well at a PCA event.

Ran 2:01 best first session and then got down to a 1:48 before blowing the charge pipe off a STOCK car on back straight.


The PFC08 pads stop! I brake late with them for sure.


This car continues to impress me and my friends in crazier cars
Keeping up with 911s is quite possible in an M2. I found it easier still once on same rubber as them. Sport Cup2 tires they come with are very good for high speed corners.
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      10-05-2020, 08:35 AM   #422
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Keeping up with 911s is quite possible in an M2. I found it easier still once on same rubber as them. Sport Cup2 tires they come with are very good for high speed corners.

i passed a few different ones and caymans because it was a PCA organized event
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Keeping up with 911s is quite possible in an M2. I found it easier still once on same rubber as them. Sport Cup2 tires they come with are very good for high speed corners.


My experience is that in the hands of a fast driver the difference between M2C DCT (with stock suspension but with camber plates) and 991.2 GT3 manual is 3.5-3.7 seconds per 1:20 seconds lap. Same tires, which are Cup2.
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My experience is that in the hands of a fast driver the difference between M2C DCT (with stock suspension but with camber plates) and 991.2 GT3 manual is 3.5-3.7 seconds per 1:20 seconds lap. Same tires, which are Cup2.
Indeed. Drivers being equal it’s a no-contest win for the GT3.

Yet, if the better driver sits even in a manual OG M2, chasing down GT3s is not a problem.

Case and point. This happens a lot on the Ring.


Driver mod is the bigger factor than car is what I’m trying to say.

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I'm flat out hooked on the track, this is my 2nd track day weekend ever.

Just got home from Barber motorsports park with the new pads and added camber. Definitely going to have to buy track wheels and tires as I'm Gonna destroy these PS4S.

Had an instructor the whole weekend, got lucky as he was amazing to work with and a bmw guy as well at a PCA event.

Ran 2:01 best first session and then got down to a 1:48 before blowing the charge pipe off a STOCK car on back straight.


The PFC08 pads stop! I brake late with them for sure.


This car continues to impress me and my friends in crazier cars
love the enthusiasm haha! Get an aftermarket chargepipe and crack on
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love the enthusiasm haha! Get an aftermarket chargepipe and crack on
Hey Megator, so I'm finally within a few seconds of my 'Ring time life goal! I want to plan one more outing to Spa next year.

After all summer of making no progress on the Ring, only to make major headway once ambient temps got cool, I think I need to target cooler months, like April and early May for my track days next year.

So I think I will try to hit Spa and the 'Ring again next April. Perhaps we could meet at Spa.
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love the enthusiasm haha! Get an aftermarket chargepipe and crack on
its at the dealer getting the stock one replaced, then going to get one from my friends shop so i have a nice new spare stock one laying around. It made a real nice noise at 90+ mph
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Yeah, I heard. I just couldn't find any open lapping events. It looks like it's all various racing series.
Most of the local clubs use Motorsportreg.com. Audi Club, Porsche Club, and Hooked On Driving (uses their own website for reg) are there the most. Turn2 also hosts events there as essentially their home venue.

They do fill quick for weekend events, so you have to look ahead and note when registration opens.
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Indeed. Drivers being equal it’s a no-contest win for the GT3.

Yet, if the better driver sits even in a manual OG M2, chasing down GT3s is not a problem.

Case and point. This happens a lot on the Ring.


Driver mod is the bigger factor than car is what I’m trying to say.

I passed what looked to be a well modded Cayman GT4 multiple times on the track, sortof felt bad for the car because I really LOVE those whips
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I passed what looked to be a well modded Cayman GT4 multiple times on the track, sortof felt bad for the car because I really LOVE those whips
Agreed. Fast cars deserve fast drivers. It's a travesty when the car is there, but the driver is sub-car. That's why I want to keep getting better as a driver. So one day, if I'm fortunate enough to drive something like that green Senna, I will won't hold the car back.
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I'm flat out hooked on the track, this is my 2nd track day weekend ever.

Just got home from Barber motorsports park with the new pads and added camber. Definitely going to have to buy track wheels and tires as I'm Gonna destroy these PS4S.

Had an instructor the whole weekend, got lucky as he was amazing to work with and a bmw guy as well at a PCA event.

Ran 2:01 best first session and then got down to a 1:48 before blowing the charge pipe off a STOCK car on back straight.


The PFC08 pads stop! I brake late with them for sure.


This car continues to impress me and my friends in crazier cars
My OG M2 is great at Barber...you can keep up with big motor cars since the straits are not long and the turns are complex. You must go to NCM in bowling green...it’s Barber plus more
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My OG M2 is great at Barber...you can keep up with big motor cars since the straits are not long and the turns are complex. You must go to NCM in bowling green...it’s Barber plus more
First track day was a private day at NCM on a weekday, 3 groups and under 30 cars total. hit 120+ on the table top there on a stock car. I do like ncm but love barber also, doing a barber bike track day next weekend
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Is it advisable to trade my silver bbk set for blue set for a trade + cash for the sole purpose of running 18" on track?

18" has better, cheaper tire selection for me + its lighter. 19" only have michelin ps4s and cup2 available where I live.

I really don't want to spring for $4k+ ($5k+ with shipping, tax, customs, currency exchange) for aftermarket 6 piston fronts.

My total cost for running 19 incl. track wheels, track tires, brake lines, brake fluids, track pads: $3700 and running costs (pads + tires) are $2000.
Total weight of silver set + ec7 wheels + tires: 140.9kg

Total cost for switching to blue brakes incl. all of the previous: $4338, minus whatever value I get for trading silver bbk and the running costs are $1640.
Total weight of blue brake set + ec7r wheels + tires: 122.4kg

My track is high speed and a lot of the heavy braking needs to be performed from ~240 km/h down to 100 km/h in 110 meters or so, if that matters.

Costs wise trading for blue brakes makes sense for me, weight wise I don't know if I'll feel the difference, I've never shaved off any unsprung weight on my cars before and I don't know how the blues will perform.
Should I do it?
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With air scoops and hose connected to the brake shields the small blue brakes hold up with no problem if you use pads like PFC08.
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I think so. Blue brakes are quite capable. I’d invest in brake lines to improve feel, and obviously high temp fluid and pads. If your track does not give the brakes much time to cool off between big brake zones, cooling is a must like Magnus said.
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With air scoops and hose connected to the brake shields the small blue brakes hold up with no problem if you use pads like PFC08.
I run the stock blues( now black), air ducts,with PFC08 and Motul 660. My home track is Road Atlanta and I haul from 150mph to 60 in 300 feet plus many other hard brake turns...no fade and great stopping power, plus lots of 18inch options.
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With air scoops and hose connected to the brake shields the small blue brakes hold up with no problem if you use pads like PFC08.
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I run the stock blues( now black), air ducts,with PFC08 and Motul 660. My home track is Road Atlanta and I haul from 150mph to 60 in 300 feet plus many other hard brake turns...no fade and great stopping power, plus lots of 18inch options.
Im going to 3rd this. Waiting on my APs and kinda regret the pruchase now as the money could have gone to something better. Luckily I got a great deal as it was a group purchase.

I say this without having tried the APs on my mates cars so maybe after we compare back to back ill have a different opinion.
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Aftermarket brake kits might get you a stiffer pedal. With the one piston calipers that the older M-cars came with from factory this was often the case. The blue four piston caliper is a big step forward so I'm not sure what you can expect from an upgrade now though.
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Thanks for the feedback, I was going to do brake cooling mods at some point eventually anyway. Seems like blue brakes + cooling will be perfect.
Have a few months off from the car now, so I have some time to mull over the decision of aftermarket fronts or blue brakes.
Recently found out they don't even stock 295/30-19 in any performance/semi-slick here except PS4S, so 19" for track is completely not an option now.
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TrofeoR is made in 295/30-19
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