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I think he explains his views very well, saying that he missed some of the top end but think the M2 would be great on small nimble tracks. But that he would like a car with more high end power (which then obviously can't be the M235i over the M2 since the M235i has less top end power). And that comment regarding not having enough money to buy an M2 is just sad Are M2 owners REALLY this insecure? |
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Gents, they are both different cars for different people, despite sharing a lot of similarities. There's no need for personal remarks.
However, back to the point of this thread, the video highlights (IMO) a strong M235i and a weak M2. To elaborate, if you compare and time 100-200kph times for each cars on other M2/235i acceleration videos on youtube; the mid-range and gearing prowess of the M2 become superior. If you then add tuned variants, then perhaps the tables can turn. |
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Worthless without knowing conditions, driver, etc...
But also remember M2 has slightly higher boost w same FMIC so its gonna heat soak on a long run like that faster, simple logical explaination as to y the m235 can keep up up top...
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The guy who posted the video on YouTube has done reviews of these cars as well. He said he was disappointed with the acceleration of the M2 above 200kph. When he reviewed the 440i GC, he pointed out that the new B58 engine really pulls and thinks it could be faster than the M2 in higher speeds. Now he wants to compare it to the M240i.
Maybe there was something wrong with the M2, it was a press car nonetheless, as someone already mentioned. I would still pick the M2 over the M235i/M240i even if it's way slower in a straight line. But it's weird how BMW made such a small power gap between the two. With the M240i it's just 30HP less, but the same torque without the overboost function. Maybe there will be a power increase with the competition package (S55), if it comes. |
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Can you tell me again why, even tho you can afford a M2 why you bought a 235. ? For the record I have quite a nice life thank you. |
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However, now that my lease is wrapping up, I want something that feels like a significant upgrade and the M2 does not feel like that. I really did want it to be and have followed this forum for quite some time until I got a chance to drive one. I will still go the M route but the F80/82 seem to be the upgrade I am looking for. Yes, I will miss the small form factor and tossability that I appreciate with the 235 and would even more appreciate with the M2. But. I will gain other things with the F80/82 that I believe I will appreciate even more. I wish you would have asked a straightforward question from the start rather than jumping to money which is not an issue given my 235 cost as much as an M2. Last edited by five3three; 08-24-2016 at 05:16 PM.. |
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And agreed - they have held back on the M2 thinking it would rival the M3/4 buyers.
But as the M235 was aimed at the outgoing RS3 it was better than expected and therefore the difference between the M2 and M235 is minimal..... |
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Sorry, I guess you simply had to make an ignorant assumption because anybody who slightly criticized a car you have is a hater who can't afford it. Just lovely. Even though I answered your last question directly that's the best you could come up with.
Too bad you don't have the class and civility that Robin_NL has as I definitely appreciate his posts and contributions to the forum over the past year or so. As a daily M2 forum reader, I can't recall a real contribution you have made, rather just simple one liners. Last edited by five3three; 08-24-2016 at 05:28 PM.. |
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Anyway, the M2 is an awesome M car, is it the best M car that BMW offers? Most reviews suggest it and let's looks at it's resume. -Lightest and smallest M available -Best steering feel available in a current M(for being electric) -Best handling M car -Awesome exhaust -Most linear feeling motor
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He said he bought his car "over 2 years ago". That should be a very big clue as to why he didn't buy an M2, right there... The M2 was NOT available at that time (the "secret" clue as to why he bought a M235i... ) |
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Video does not tally
There has been a hard data comparison done with the 2 cars.
I'm not siding either car but the legitimacy of the video is in question. How is it possible to reach the same 0 - 210(ish)kmph (130mph) when the controlled test shows its about MORE THAN FOUR secs slower? Just trying to be authentic here. Here: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1263410 Does not make sense. |
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