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      10-27-2019, 11:49 AM   #1
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For my up coming 15K (DIY) oil change considering going 5W40 route. Debating between Shell euro or Motul 8100X. Any recommendations one over the other?
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For my up coming 15K (DIY) oil change considering going 5W40 route. Debating between Shell euro or Motul 8100X. Any recommendations one over the other?
If cost isn't a factor, then Redline 5W40. Otherwise, Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40.

https://www.redlineoil.com/Content/f...0_MO_PROD_INFO(1).pdf
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I used this oil in my last DIY oil change.

https://www.amazon.com/Pennzoil-5500.../dp/B00JMCCBRW
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I used this oil in my last DIY oil change.

https://www.amazon.com/Pennzoil-5500.../dp/B00JMCCBRW
Just ordered it.
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      10-31-2019, 01:21 AM   #5
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For my up coming 15K (DIY) oil change considering going 5W40 route. Debating between Shell euro or Motul 8100X. Any recommendations one over the other?
I would use any BMW LL-01 approved 0w-40 or 5w-40 and forget about it. It appears the Motul is LL-01 approved, so if you want to feel fancy I'd go with that.
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I would use any BMW LL-01 approved 0w-40 or 5w-40 and forget about it. It appears the Motul is LL-01 approved, so if you want to feel fancy I'd go with that.
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 is LL-01 BMW approved also.
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Another top oils in 5w40 viscosity class:

- Liqui Moly Molygen New Generation 5W40
- XADO 5W-40 Luxury Drive Black 5W40
- Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (with PurePlus technology)
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Another top oils in 5w40 viscosity class:

- Liqui Moly Molygen New Generation 5W40
- XADO 5W-40 Luxury Drive Black 5W40
- Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (with PurePlus technology)
NOACK is too high on Next Gen at 11%. Redline 5W40 is 6%.
https://pim.liqui-moly.de/pidoc/P001...40-41.0-us.pdf
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Another top oils in 5w40 viscosity class:

- Liqui Moly Molygen New Generation 5W40
- XADO 5W-40 Luxury Drive Black 5W40
- Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (with PurePlus technology)
NOACK is too high on Next Gen at 11%. Redline 5W40 is 6%.
https://pim.liqui-moly.de/pidoc/P001...40-41.0-us.pdf
Yes, you are right! if OPF is removed, than it should be ok!
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      11-05-2019, 11:09 PM   #10
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So you guys are not using your "free" maintenance from BMW? On all my BMWs, I have used the maintenance provided because the cars have always been driven less than 6K miles annually. When then maintenance runs out, I change the oil myself. I had been using Castrol 10W60 for my M5 and Z4M coupe (OE) but recently switched to Liqui-Moly 10W60 for both cars (S65 and S54 engines respectively) based on Mike Miller's recommendation. We'll see what my next Blackstone analysis reveals.

For the M2C, I plan on the same strategy. I will use the provided oil change yearly with 0W30 BMW/Shell and then decide which oil based on used oil analysis.

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So you guys are not using your "free" maintenance from BMW? On all my BMWs, I have used the maintenance provided because the cars have always been driven less than 6K miles annually. When then maintenance runs out, I change the oil myself. I had been using Castrol 10W60 for my M5 and Z4M coupe (OE) but recently switched to Liqui-Moly 10W60 for both cars (S65 and S54 engines respectively) based on Mike Miller's recommendation. We'll see what my next Blackstone analysis reveals.

For the M2C, I plan on the same strategy. I will use the provided oil change yearly with 0W30 BMW/Shell and then decide which oil based on used oil analysis.

I love oil threads. They are legendary on M5board.com.
Not sure about the LM, but I always used the original Castrol TWS Motorsport when I could because it shears down to something like a 40 pretty quickly. I always thought the 10W-60 was a panic move after the initial bearing failures on S54 and might not really be the best choice for street use.

I used to be into UOA but saw several examples of S65 engines spin a rod bearing even after several good Blackstone reports. Not saying they are useless, but I am definitely more skeptical of their diagnostic capability.
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So you guys are not using your "free" maintenance from BMW? On all my BMWs, I have used the maintenance provided because the cars have always been driven less than 6K miles annually. When then maintenance runs out, I change the oil myself. I had been using Castrol 10W60 for my M5 and Z4M coupe (OE) but recently switched to Liqui-Moly 10W60 for both cars (S65 and S54 engines respectively) based on Mike Miller's recommendation. We'll see what my next Blackstone analysis reveals.

For the M2C, I plan on the same strategy. I will use the provided oil change yearly with 0W30 BMW/Shell and then decide which oil based on used oil analysis.

I love oil threads. They are legendary on M5board.com.
We are using the free maintenance oil changes every 10K miles, however it's my DD so mileage is adding up, so I DIY every 5K and let the dealer do the every 10K. On DIY I don't re-set the oil clock.
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Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 is LL-01 BMW approved also.
I bought 48 Qts of this on sale. Use it on my in between BMW 10k changes.

It worked out to $6 pr qt
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Here in Germany BMW recommends 0W-40 which is funny since it hardly ever gets colder than 15F in Stuttgart area. And here the oil change interval is crazy long too. 25k kilometers, or 15k miles, or 2 years.
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Here in Germany BMW recommends 0W-40 which is funny since it hardly ever gets colder than 15F in Stuttgart area. And here the oil change interval is crazy long too. 25k kilometers, or 15k miles, or 2 years.
In the UK they are setting 20k miles (32k km) intervals - way too long to go without an oil change imo.

(edit: doh! this is with n55 m2 and see you have m2c)

And they recommend/insist on 0w30, which is super light for a performance car. Good to know that they use 0w40 in DE - I'll use it when I diy change.
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Motul Xcess 5w-40 here.... just a change at 2500 miles and running a UOA to see how its playing so far. It did have a fuel smell to it so waiting on what the lab says
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Apparently the Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5-40, the Premium oil that Shell recommended for BMW might be discontinued. I was able to get some at $4. per quart. Get them while you can!
The new recommendation is Platinum Euro 0-40.
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Apparently the Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5-40, the Premium oil that Shell recommended for BMW might be discontinued. I was able to get some at $4. per quart. Get them while you can!
The new recommendation is Platinum Euro 0-40.
Where did you purchase at?

I can see that Amazon no longer has it.
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As has been stated in another thread, the Platinum Euro 0W-40 is LL-04 rated and not LL-01.
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Here in Germany BMW recommends 0W-40 which is funny since it hardly ever gets colder than 15F in Stuttgart area. And here the oil change interval is crazy long too. 25k kilometers, or 15k miles, or 2 years.
What oil have you bought? want to change mine some time soon. I was just going to order the BMW oil even though it is prob more expensive than it needs to be.
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The Pennzoil Platinum Euro Full Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil which is BMW-LL-01 is back for now. $50.77 for 6.

https://www.amazon.com/Pennzoil-Plat...9134671&sr=8-6
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