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      11-23-2019, 11:43 AM   #111
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These are going to sit in lots. Wait 6 months and a much better buy at $70k. The M3CS and M4 CS had the same fate.
Not sure whether M2 CS will be "sitting in lots" - likely they even won't make it to the entrance of a lot of dealerships:
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So, BMW did not learn from the M3/M4 CS mistake. These cars sat at dealers lots for long and in order to move them, some were offering $25K off, not good. My guessing it will be same for this car not saying it's a bad ride, but come on 40% over M2C
If I'm informed correctly, BMW got paid for the GTS and CS cars - the dealers paid. But dealers usually learn from what they experience. Apart from some places on the face of the earth known for mark-up frenzy, we can reasonably assume that most dealers will prefer signed M2 CS orders prior to ordering that expensive type of car targeted at a limited audience. I mean, it's quite nice to have a GTS or CS on display in your showroom, but the showroom is not supposed to become a 'museum'.
They made way less M3 CS than M2 CS and they sat on dealer lots with big discounts in the US market. Perhaps things were different in Europe?
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Iím waiting back for 6+ months after they land stateside and letting the few suckers buy at msrp (and some probably over) and then gonna snap one $10k or so off msrp.

This thing is sweet but not $28k over M2c sweet.
You are taking the risk that they will all be sold out. The M2 is the most popular M.
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      11-23-2019, 11:52 AM   #113
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So $100k after markups then
You mean $75k after discounts
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I think your right with the price but it better be a fantastic drive. M2's have a cult following, I had a 1M and loved the size of it. I don't know...it's a tough sell for me but I don't really desire one. I'd rather have a more usable M3 CS. To each his own.

30 miles from me.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Agreed. That's a great deal on the M3 CS.
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Artemis, good sir, given the choice between turbo-charged 4 banger and naturally aspirated 6, I'd take 4 banger 8 days a week.
I know, I know, I know... heresy. The ravings of a benighted ignoramus. But, for my use case, daily driving and fun weekend canyon runs, want / need low down torque. I see all the comments in the thread on 981 GT4 owners saying NA6 just feels slow and boring on the road, stratospheric gearing, and needing to go "lose your license" speed to actually enjoy the sound of the NA6, and I'm convinced that NA6 is only good for track duty, which isn't my use case.
And again, because I'm an ignoramus, I actually like the sound of the 4 banger!!! Maybe I need to buy myself a Subaru!
I said "6-banger". Not "naturally aspirated 6-banger".
Ah! Damn! Turbo-charged 6! Yes. That would rock.
With a naturally aspirated motor you just need to be in the proper gear and rpm range not necessarily at "lose your license" speeds...

As for the Porsche Cayman GT4 ... "it is a naturally aspirated variant bored and stroked to 4.0 litres - The result is 414 horsepower—up 49 on the turbo four found in the Cayman GTS—and 309 lb-ft of torque. The GTS, hits its peak at 1900 rpm and carries it to 5500. And the GT4/Spyder engine's power peak is at 7600, 2100 rpm higher than the turbo four's."
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These are going to sit in lots. Wait 6 months and a much better buy at $70k. The M3CS and M4 CS had the same fate.
Again, there is a risk that all of the allocations are snatched up by dealer orders with the waitlists. Each dealer will probably only get 2 -3 cars the most. And again, the M2 is the most popular M. And finally, $83K is $15K less than the M3 CS. There is a decent chance they will be all gone and not on dealer lots.
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I think your right with the price but it better be a fantastic drive. M2's have a cult following, I had a 1M and loved the size of it. I don't know...it's a tough sell for me but I don't really desire one. I'd rather have a more usable M3 CS. To each his own.

30 miles from me.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Agreed. That's a great deal on the M3 CS.
Oh great lead.
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I went to the LA Autoshow this morning to see the M2 CS (since I have a reservation), and to get some pricing.

Pricing was just shared with them last night, US base model is $83,600.

I had previously set my ceiling at $80k but itís so close that Iím moving forward with the purchase anyhow.

Production and Delivery estimates seem unchanged but likely sooner from what they were saying.
Can you at least hint at your source for the price? Who shared the price?
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This, my friends, is the definition of 'trolling'.
They are both turbo 2+2 sports/luxury cars from germany? If was willing to spend $20K more I would be in a TTRS.
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You can get all those parts for a lot cheaper than that.
Yes, I was merely listing some MSRPs

However, one needs to take into account painting and installation costs

Personally, I would much rather have it done at the factory (especially the roof)

Furthermore, the carbon fiber parts appear to be CS specific (apart from the mirror caps and rear diffusor)

Then there is also a bunch of other stuff unique to the CS and I have no idea what they might cost such as the M adaptive suspension, Merino leather seats, CF center tunnel, alcantara pieces, slightly different exhaust, better tune, etc.

In the end, it all really depends on how one intends to use the vehicle and budget

If you want the adaptive suspension, a more powerful factory tune, love carbon fiber and don't intend to do many, if any, mods or cost isn't really an object then the CS might be the right choice

Nevertheless, I do think the base M2 C gives you more "bang for your buck"
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This, my friends, is the definition of 'trolling'.
They are both turbo 2+2 sports/luxury cars from germany? If was willing to spend $20K more I would be in a TTRS.
Have you driven an Audi TTRS? Or any TT for that matter? Audi's driving characteristics don't compare to BMW and the TTRS is basically their attempt at making a sporty subcompact. Would compare the tts to an M2..?
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They made way less M3 CS than M2 CS and they sat on dealer lots with big discounts in the US market. Perhaps things were different in Europe?
That was actually the point I made in my earlier comment. We're on the same page. Judging by what you find at dealer lots and in ads, GTS and CS (re)sales weren't/aren't particularly smooth.

As commented, dealers and coin-flippers learn from their experiences. For example my dealer: still got an M4 CS and M4 GTS for sale. Those cars get lots of looks, but no-one buys. And as no customer asked for an M3 CS, he did not order one. Therefore my assumption that the same is gonna happen for the M2 CS: most dealers will refrain from ordering it (shelling out a nice lump of cash), except if they got signed orders or if they plan to keep the car for the dealership.
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It may as well be a unicorn.
With 2200 cars worldwide, I would not call it a unicorn:
  • 1M: 2700 scheduled - 6309 built - out of production (see here);
  • M4 GTS ("limited edition"): 700 scheduled - 803 built - out of production (see here);
  • M4 DTM ("limited edition"): 200 scheduled - 200 built - out of production (see here);
  • M4 CS: 3000 scheduled - 2043 built (June 2019 figure) - still produced (see here);
  • M3 CS: 1200 scheduled - 1263 built - out of production (see here);
  • M2 CS ("limited edition"): 2200 scheduled - production from March 2020 onwards (see here).
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This, my friends, is the definition of 'trolling'.
They are both turbo 2+2 sports/luxury cars from germany? If was willing to spend $20K more I would be in a TTRS.
Hahaha! TTRS, might as well just get an Xbox and Forza Horizons
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When I could have purchased a new M3CS for $88 this seems crazy. or a used M3CS below $70k... Not sure why unless its a beast to drive.
M3CS doesn't have a manual option so expect a premium for that despite it being standard on the M2CS
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The price is right!! I honestly thought it would be upwards of $100k msrp from what we've seen with Euro spec prices possibly starting at €95,000 (yeesh). With a nice list of upgrades, this vehicle is very enticing if the $83,600 number is accurate.

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Have you driven an Audi TTRS? Or any TT for that matter? Audi's driving characteristics don't compare to BMW and the TTRS is basically their attempt at making a sporty subcompact. Would compare the tts to an M2..?
Have you? Not only is it quicker, it's more comfortable. If you track your M2, or want a stick shift, I understand why you won't even consider a TTRS. But if you just want a small, fast, small german sports car to drive every day and you can't afford a 911 the TTRS is really compelling.
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The price is right!! I honestly thought it would be upwards of $100k msrp from what we've seen with Euro spec prices possibly starting at Ä95,000 (yeesh). With a nice list of upgrades, this vehicle is very enticing if the $83,600 number is accurate.

CS calibrations
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Modified exhaust system
CF front splitter
CF mirrors
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M competition sport seats
M performance alcantara wheel
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Agreed completely. Quite pleased it is not $100K.
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Have you? Not only is it quicker, it's more comfortable. If you track your M2, or want a stick shift, I understand why you won't even consider a TTRS. But if you just want a small, fast, small german sports car to drive every day and you can't afford a 911 the TTRS is really compelling.
There is talk that the Audi TT is getting cancelled and not getting a new generation so not much of an option going forward.
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The price is right!! I honestly thought it would be upwards of $100k msrp from what we've seen with Euro spec prices possibly starting at Ä95,000 (yeesh). With a nice list of upgrades, this vehicle is very enticing if the $83,600 number is accurate.

CS calibrations
CF bonnet (50% lighter) w/ vent
Adaptive M suspension
Modified exhaust system
CF front splitter
CF mirrors
CF roof
CF wing
CF diffuser
M-sport calipers
M competition sport seats
M performance alcantara wheel
CF and alcantara interior
CS badging
No, the price is not right. Itís still slower than corvettes and Camaro 1LE while being way more expensive. How is this right?
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There is talk that the Audi TT is getting cancelled and not getting a new generation so not much of an option going forward.
Audi TT is on its way out: see here.
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No, the price is not right. Itís still slower than corvettes and Camaro 1LE while being way more expensive. How is this right?
Are you buying a C8 Corvette then?
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Iíll buy a C8 way before I buy CS M2. Price is outrageous for how little performance and sound you get for the dollar.
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