[Seagull]

Hmmmm I don't know if I mis-voted from my phone but I'm 100% satisfied with MT. I was lured away from MT in my F30/335i days due to the 8AT being more fuel efficient and faster than the MT. But I found myself driving that auto 98% in "manual mode and while I did enjoy it I felt I was missing something. Hence the MT now.

Also the best way to enjoy the exhaust and especially the MPE is with a proper MT. You can make that car growl when you want... which turns out to be "all the time"

[///M-pressed]

No regrets here. I thought I would hate the auto rev-match but I am used to it now. And it actually allows you to keep your whole foot on the brake to apply more braking pressure, so I can understand why they did it.

That being said, it would be nice to try and turn it off so I can heel and toe myself sometimes.

Gearbox is slick and brilliant as well!

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by Seagull

I was lured away from MT in my F30/335i days due to the 8AT being more fuel efficient and faster than the MT. But I found myself driving that auto 98% in "manual mode and while I did enjoy it I felt I was missing something. Hence the MT now.

Me too. I succumbed to the faster 0-60 claimed times and extra torque output from the 8AT specific MPPK. Plus, I thought it'd be cool having paddle shifters like an F1 car. The novelty soon wore off. That's not to say it isn't a great transmission. It just lacks the fun engagement factor.

[Inuyasha]

Absolutely no regrets... i feel it's a very easy manual to drive, from the light clutch pedal to the short and easy row of the gears.
The car is raw but the shift and clutch to me feel light and smooth to row + the rev match... makes my driving experience very enjoyable.

[Click821]

This is my first car with a manual transmission. Best decision I have made and don't regret it 1 bit. I can see how the DCT is faster, but the 6 speed is so much more satisfying and engaging. I'm sure it only gets more fun the better I get.

[blackholescion]

I have no regrets. I'll echo that it would be nice to have a button to turn off rev match. It was also a learning curve in trying to be smooth with the rev matching (side step the clutch, essentially, since the rev match is perfect 100% of the time).

One thing that wasn't mentioned, the auto rev up from a stand still. So if you let just the clutch out from a stop, the car will rev up to prevent stalling. This feature is really great in traffic. Especially when everyone else drives automatics and loves to creep up. Now you can too, without any drama or riding the clutch or anything like that. ymmv based on traffic conditions, but I love this feature in stop and go. Not that I stall, but it's just a nicety feature that makes stop and go in a manual much easier.

[Macphisto]

The manual is great...except going north through Irvine, CA on the 405 on a Friday afternoon. That sucked!

[Jackie Chiles]

Question: What RPM is the M2 at in top gear at 75 MPH in the 6MT? DCT?

TIA!

Jackie

[Swimfanrick]

Originally Posted by Jackie Chiles

Question: What RPM is the M2 at in top gear at 75 MPH in the 6MT? DCT?

TIA!

Jackie

At 80mph in the 6MT, it turns about 3100 rpm.

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by Swimfanrick

At 80mph in the 6MT, it turns about 3100 rpm.

That's a relief. Another member mentioned 3500rpm @ 75

[C230AMG]

Folks who are accustomed to slush boxes will always love them. They are hardliners to manually hit the clutch and shift. I used to love them until knee problems and Charlie horses came into my life.

[Nicname]

Debated this decision for about 2 months while trying to find an M2. Told myself w.e offer that came first or allocation that was almost built would be the transmission I'd go with and that ended up being a LBB DCT. I'm coming from both a dct e92 and a 6spd Porsche turbo. I didn't grow up with manuals all my life and actually the turbo was the second manual I owned. Ultimately dct won it for me because I daily drive into the city. There were times I would dread the idea of driving home the Porsche knowing the traffic that awaited me near the Lincoln tunnel. If your commute is easy and short and/or this is a weekend car, do yourself a favor and get 6spd. If you have a heavy daily traffic commute and never really grew up around manuals and everything, DCT is the way to go

[dasblack]

Originally Posted by Click821

This is my first car with a manual transmission. Best decision I have made and don't regret it 1 bit. I can see how the DCT is faster, but the 6 speed is so much more satisfying and engaging. I'm sure it only gets more fun the better I get.

Same here, first manual car. I'm very happy with the decision over the dct.

[CosmosMpower]

DCT is freaking boring, upshifts at 2400 rpm and in 7th by 45 mph. If I had to buy a DCT I wouldn't buy this car. I love the auto rev match even though I can heel toe downshift myself but I'm lazy. For track work you'd turn TC off anyway and you can rev match on your own so it's perfect.

[rouxeny]

I'm going with 6MT. I had a DCT e9x m3, it was fun, but not that involved. I've driven a stick in NY/NJ/LA traffic, it was never a problem. There's almost no traffic where I live now.

I'm not that interested in the 0-60 time delta, it just doesn't mean that much to me in daily driving, same with the faster shift times.

BMW also neutered the DCT software. When the E9x M3 originally came out, the DCT was very aggressive with shifting, with every downshift, the car let out a mighty "braaaap". I really liked that, but they quickly "upgraded" the software, and that was gone.

[Corinne]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

That's a relief. Another member mentioned 3500rpm @ 75

I heard that the DCT revs are lower for a given speed in top gear... and this obviously is one of the main reasons for the better fuel economy and hence the lower CO2 taxes in Europe.

I really don't understand why BMW doesn't have a longer 6th gear in manual so as to reduce the fuel consumption when cruising on a highway, and to make it less tiring. I can't see any disadvantage in doing this as the other 5 gears are there for sporty driving. Imagine if you had to drive at a steady 130 kph for 8 hours - you'd be much, much better off with an engine turning at 500 rpm less than it does now.

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by Corinne

I heard that the DCT revs are lower for a given speed in top gear... and this obviously is one of the main reasons for the better fuel economy and hence the lower CO2 taxes in Europe.

I really don't understand why BMW doesn't have a longer 6th gear in manual so as to reduce the fuel consumption when cruising on a highway, and to make it less tiring. I can't see any disadvantage in doing this as the other 5 gears are there for sporty driving. Imagine if you had to drive at a steady 130 kph for 8 hours - you'd be much, much better off with an engine turning at 500 rpm less than it does now.

Correct...

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by blackholescion

One thing that wasn't mentioned, the auto rev up from a stand still. So if you let just the clutch out from a stop, the car will rev up to prevent stalling. This feature is really great in traffic. Especially when everyone else drives automatics and loves to creep up. Now you can too, without any drama or riding the clutch or anything like that. ymmv based on traffic conditions, but I love this feature in stop and go. Not that I stall, but it's just a nicety feature that makes stop and go in a manual much easier.

Thanks for posting this

Tried it out today and it works. Kind of weird feeling to let out the clutch but don't press the gas pedal. I'm actually looking forward to driving in traffic now LOL.

[reppucci]

6MT in my MY16 M2. Never really considered the DCT. Very Happy!,

I am old school. My DD for the past 41 years, since I was 18, has been a manual. And I have entirely lived in NYC/Metro area with 1+ hr commute in traffic each way!

The MT and the M2 is a very good match. Almost perfect. Agree with light clutch, high engagement and the rev match issues; makes it easy to drive in traffic if you really aren't experienced with a manual. That said nothing beats a manual. It truly engages you into appreciating and paying attention to what you are doing. Driving! The M2 is a driving car which deserves the MT to fully appreciate!

If you want to track maybe DCT but for sheer appreciation of driving, the MT is the way to go!

Enjoy. You made the correct choice.

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by atxsk8r

Thanks for posting this

Tried it out today and it works. Kind of weird feeling to let out the clutch but don't press the gas pedal. I'm actually looking forward to driving in traffic now LOL.

Yup. Totally agree. Makes it easy to learn how to drive a manual!

[koastal]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

That's a relief. Another member mentioned 3500rpm @ 75

Surely that cant be true ? The dual clutch would be doing close to 110 mph at those rpms

I didnt even consider a manual, and if the above is true i am pretty glad. Not only will the DCT dust a manual in any ///Motorsport situation it costs me less whilst doing so.

For the record pressing a clutch pedal isnt so hard. As far as i can tell thats the only extra involvement a manual offers.

For the folk that have bought a DCT and leave it in auto..... Stop it !!!
People like you are giving dual clutches a bad name

[Dave-A]

Originally Posted by koastal

Surely that cant be true ? The dual clutch would be doing close to 110 mph at those rpms

I didnt even consider a manual, and if the above is true i am pretty glad. Not only will the DCT dust a manual in any ///Motorsport situation it costs me less whilst doing so.

For the record pressing a clutch pedal isnt so hard. As far as i can tell thats the only extra involvement a manual offers.

For the folk that have bought a DCT and leave it in auto..... Stop it !!!
People like you are giving dual clutches a bad name

It's not true.

I think it's more than just moving a clutch- it's being able to read a road and preempt weight and load changes.

I think the advantages in having a DCT are 1) being able to always left foot brake and 2) being able to pretend to be a race car driver while pulling paddles in traffic. Granted it will be faster at the drags, but if I wanted a drag car it wouldn't be an M2!