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      10-11-2016, 03:48 PM   #89
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Does anyone know if disabling the *_APPLE_LIC key in esys is a safe way to turn off carplay? Am I going to need a dealer to reenable it or is the license itself stored elsewhere?

Reason: Carplay is really shitty especially the wireless carplay implementation.
  • Its maps are bad, BMW nav is better.
  • You have to switch the phone mode to bluetooth/non carplay mode to use a loadable app (laptimer, etc..).
  • The car doesnt seem to remember if the device is carplay or not after doing this so I get BT connection sometimes carplay others.
I found carplay annoying. I went into settings on Idrive and found the screen where you can select either Carplay or Idrive. I selected iDrive and I don't see Carplay on the main screen anymore.
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      10-11-2016, 04:20 PM   #90
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I found carplay annoying. I went into settings on Idrive and found the screen where you can select either Carplay or Idrive. I selected iDrive and I don't see Carplay on the main screen anymore.
Do you use your phone on bluetooth link to the car still? Did you have to re-pair? I had issues with audio playback when I did this.
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Yes, I still have bluetooth audio and phone. I don't think I had to pair it again. I paired the phone to car twice that I remember and both times where to get Carplay working. I don't remember having to do it a third time when I turned off Carplay. I knew Carplay would be something I don't really care about but for $300 I figured I'd get it to make the car easier to sell later. It won't matter that it sucks, just that it has it
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Subscribed..I need to verify my files and see if I can find that Apple Key parameter.

I have the latest iDrive and my car is a MY2017 but no Carplay, wasnt offered for my build week.
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Subscribed..I need to verify my files and see if I can find that Apple Key parameter.

I have the latest iDrive and my car is a MY2017 but no Carplay, wasnt offered for my build week.
Hah you gonna try to turn it on?

Everything I've read says apple uses some hardware verification to enable licensing on carplay implementations. The parameter I was curious about was: 'API_APPLE_AUTH_CHIP_ON_OFF'. I found it referenced on the F22 coding cheatsheet on google docs. I don't know what the actual implications are of changing this to 'not_active' though and I'd prefer to avoid a dealer trip if it permanently disables the licensing for it. I'll try to verify that parameter does exist on our cars within the next couple days.
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Subscribed..I need to verify my files and see if I can find that Apple Key parameter.

I have the latest iDrive and my car is a MY2017 but no Carplay, wasnt offered for my build week.
Hah you gonna try to turn it on?

Everything I've read says apple uses some hardware verification to enable licensing on carplay implementations. The parameter I was curious about was: 'API_APPLE_AUTH_CHIP_ON_OFF'. I found it referenced on the F22 coding cheatsheet on google docs. I don't know what the actual implications are of changing this to 'not_active' though and I'd prefer to avoid a dealer trip if it permanently disables the licensing for it. I'll try to verify that parameter does exist on our cars within the next couple days.
Not immediately, but I definitely want to check my files to see if it even has it. Got it coded recently with a forum member and I have the files on my laptop, so I will check them this evening to see what I find.
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Not immediately, but I definitely want to check my files to see if it even has it. Got it coded recently with a forum member and I have the files on my laptop, so I will check them this evening to see what I find.
Ok, got bored and went to garage. Mine is set to active.
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Ok, got bored and went to garage. Mine is set to active.
Mine also has it and says active..

So what does this mean? The car has iDrive 5.0 and it has the CarPlay option pre-configured in the coding files but its just not available on it?
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Mine also has it and says active..

So what does this mean? The car has iDrive 5.0 and it has the CarPlay option pre-configured in the coding files but its just not available on it?
It means its set to aktiv on cars with and without carplay. It might have nothing to do with it at all. Might be some drm thing for ipod or something. I'll keep looking around. 'Apple Auth Chip' on google brings up stuff associated with lightning cable verification. Maybe its just that 'supported accessory' garbage when plugging in stuff to iphone.
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It means its set to aktiv on cars with and without carplay. It might have nothing to do with it at all. Might be some drm thing for ipod or something. I'll keep looking around. 'Apple Auth Chip' on google brings up stuff associated with lightning cable verification. Maybe its just that 'supported accessory' garbage when plugging in stuff to iphone.
There is another one for APPLE. Check this one.

Improvements to the Apple EAF 4.x that enable further functions such as switching the app on/off through the HMI.
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Think the authentication option will stop the iphone working properly with out an official cable from apple, remember the newer ones since 5 have a authenticator chip in the official adapters, so I presume with that enabled it may stop 5's onward from using it with non official cable. might be wrong though, but it sounds like that to me. Or its the total opposite and it enables the bypass of an official cable and the chip is connected to port itself who knows.
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The other option I think allows app switching in the idrive, so if you are in Tunein radio, you can switch to Spotify without having to physically do it on the phone itself.
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There is another one for APPLE. Check this one.

Improvements to the Apple EAF 4.x that enable further functions such as switching the app on/off through the HMI.
Looks to be related to this: https://developer.apple.com/reference/externalaccessory.

I am brand new to coding on these cars I wonder if theres some way to just diff our parameters, should point out anything that changes between a '17 w/ carplay and without. I'll look into it.
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lol: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=749668

I guess someone beat me to it.
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Anyone from Canada has had the Car Play option retrofitted?

All posts I saw said it would be available middle of September..
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Took it off my order after looking at reviews of CarPlay. It's 100% pointless, IMHO.
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The last thing I want is Apple maps navigation...
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The last thing I want is Apple maps navigation...
I'm more interested in the Pandora and Spotify.
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Anyone from Canada has had the Car Play option retrofitted?

All posts I saw said it would be available middle of September..
Emailed BMW Canada a couple a days ago. Waiting for their feedback.
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Anyone from Canada has had the Car Play option retrofitted?

All posts I saw said it would be available middle of September..
Emailed BMW Canada a couple a days ago. Waiting for their feedback.
Please let me know!

If Canada answers anything I could reply back with details regarding Canada's actions if its positive info.

I just got this from my email questioning it.
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Anyone from Canada has had the Car Play option retrofitted?

All posts I saw said it would be available middle of September..
Emailed BMW Canada a couple a days ago. Waiting for their feedback.
Please let me know!

If Canada answers anything I could reply back with details regarding Canada's actions if its positive info.

I just got this from my email questioning it.
In the Canadian product bulletin, it was mentioned CarPlay will be introduced starting with cars produced after Sep/2016 and July/August cars will be retrofitted free of charge.
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In the Canadian product bulletin, it was mentioned CarPlay will be introduced starting with cars produced after Sep/2016 and July/August cars will be retrofitted free of charge.
Yeah, I recall reading that. What I want to know is IF someone from the forum has had that done already. Not looking to get it free, just want to know that is has been done already.
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The last thing I want is Apple maps navigation...
I'm more interested in the Pandora and Spotify.
I am the same production week as you (my car finished July 23) and I do not have apple CarPlay. BUT I can use pandora, Spotify, and iHeartRadio through the idrive system (granted it's coming off my iPhone). Can you not get get those to work in your idrive system?
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