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      10-12-2015, 11:10 PM   #67
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I just do not get what people see in this car. It is ugly and looks like a sawed off turd. It looks like the mercedes cla, another turd.
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      10-12-2015, 11:11 PM   #68
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I just do not get what people see in this car. It is ugly and looks like a sawed off turd. It looks like the mercedes cla, another turd.
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      10-12-2015, 11:12 PM   #69
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Said from day 1 price would be $49,900. People thought I was crazy for being low. I was only off by about $1k. Ppl have to understand BMW has to be competitive in a fantastic market or they will not see sales!
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      10-12-2015, 11:12 PM   #70
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I just do not get what people see in this car. It is ugly and looks like a sawed off turd. It looks like the mercedes cla, another turd.
Even though I disagree with you, I still lol'd
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      10-12-2015, 11:14 PM   #71
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I just do not get what people see in this car. It is ugly and looks like a sawed off turd. It looks like the mercedes cla, another turd.
Lol
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      10-12-2015, 11:15 PM   #72
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Base MSRP on the M235i is $44,150. That's a $7000 delta to the $51k base MSRP on the M2 all things being equal. Many people wouldn't take the additional $200+ on a lease monthly payment.

Of course, most of us here would though
Have to understand also that the M2 comes standard with leather seats and Nav. Add all that up and the M235i comes out to $48,545. $51k - $48.5k = a difference of only $2.5k!
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      10-12-2015, 11:19 PM   #73
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How much was the 1M in the states? Going to use this info to guess what pricing in Oz might be. Ta
1M started at 48k I believe.
Assume $3k increase over 1M in US.

Means ~A$130k for the Aussies drive away factoring in the AUD tanking too.
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      10-12-2015, 11:25 PM   #74
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Did we decide what the 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times are going to be? Would love to look at what the objectives will look like on paper when looking at price relative to m235 and m3/m4
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      10-12-2015, 11:29 PM   #75
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Have to understand also that the M2 comes standard with leather seats and Nav. Add all that up and the M235i comes out to $48,545. $51k - $48.5k = a difference of only $2.5k!
You make a good point. It's almost hard to believe. I myself thought it would come in at around $55k-$56k.

Well, in just a few short hours all these months and months of rumors and speculation wil become a thing of the past
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      10-12-2015, 11:36 PM   #76
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$51k is really a nuts low number- I 'built my own' m235i just now and with the only adding LSD, harmon pardon and an optional paint color my build came to $50,030. That makes the M2 a real deal.
I think it'll be fair to assume if you want an LSD on the M235i, you might as well just spring for an M2 (if markups aren't a factor)
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      10-12-2015, 11:37 PM   #77
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How much was the 1M in the states? Going to use this info to guess what pricing in Oz might be. Ta
1M started at 48k I believe.
Assume $3k increase over 1M in US.

Means ~A$130k for the Aussies drive away factoring in the AUD tanking too.
I can't see it being 130k. 1M was 105k driveaway. Given the recent price drop of M3 now at 152k you get can get one at 140k . If M2 is 130 then M3 is much better value. I predict 115k
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That's fair. No offense to 1M owners. I loved mine as well.
For low mileage 1Ms I don't see the prices dropping too much as it has the following advantages over the M2:

It's the original Pyrat
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No fake sound
More aggressive styling
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For low mileage 1Ms I don't see the prices dropping too much as it has the following advantages over the M2:

It's the original Pyrat
Low production numbers
Hydraulic steering
No fake sound
More aggressive styling
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More aggressive styling? I'd say it's more funky but definitely not more aggressive.
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$51k is really a nuts low number- I 'built my own' m235i just now and with the only adding LSD, harmon pardon and an optional paint color my build came to $50,030. That makes the M2 a real deal.
I think it'll be fair to assume if you want an LSD on the M235i, you might as well just spring for an M2 (if markups aren't a factor)
Has the 2 series not come down in price to adjust for slotting M2 between it and M3? Entire 2 series range here in Aus came down in pricing which I took to make way for M2
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I'm not sure why you guys are so excited... $51k MSRP does not necessarily mean that's the sale price. I have a feeling dealers will mark these up about $10k for a quarter or two. Hopefully you have a good relationship and they'll swing MSRP.
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I'm not sure why you guys are so excited... $51k MSRP does not necessarily mean that's the sale price. I have a feeling dealers will mark these up about $10k for a quarter or two. Hopefully you have a good relationship and they'll swing MSRP.
I'd say a fair share of dealers can not mark up the price of vehicles though. Not much to worry about there IMO.
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I'm not sure why you guys are so excited... $51k MSRP does not necessarily mean that's the sale price. I have a feeling dealers will mark these up about $10k for a quarter or two. Hopefully you have a good relationship and they'll swing MSRP.
I'd say a fair share of dealers can not mark up the price of vehicles though. Not much to worry about there IMO.
I thought all dealers could set their own sale price. Is that not true for BMW dealerships?
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Plus DCT, lighting, 62k out door.
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More aggressive styling? I'd say it's more funky but definitely not more aggressive.
Sure, some may say funky, but there 1M has one of the widest/most aggressive fender flares than any other BMW besides maybe the Z3 M. Neither of us have seen M2's fenders, but I'm quite sure it won't be as aggressive as the 1Ms.
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Plus DCT, lighting, 62k out door.
Since when does DCT and lightning cost around 10 grand?
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Since when does DCT and lightning cost around 10 grand?
Maybe with sales tax, but otherwise no way.
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Plus DCT, lighting, 62k out door.
Since when does DCT and lightning cost around 10 grand?
Lightning is free.
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