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      01-09-2020, 01:00 PM   #441
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Hey guys, great discussion!
Is there any advantage to running an aftermarket intercooler on a stock 2016 M2 (just thinking of adding an Active Autowerks catted DP).
I have noticed after a hard full-throttle pull, it wont pull as hard anymore (heat soak?). I live in Miami where it is regularly in the 85-95 degrees and humid. I've been googling and someone said its cheaper and a better first-step to upgrade the "heat exchanger", not the entire intercooler. That threw me off, I thought the intercooler was a heat exchanger.
Anyhow, would love all your thoughts so I can learn more!
On my wagner evo comp 2 my temperatures decrease after the first hard pull!
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      01-10-2020, 10:13 AM   #442
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On my wagner evo comp 2 my temperatures decrease after the first hard pull!
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      01-11-2020, 09:57 PM   #443
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any one know the bolt size of the bolts that come with the csf intercooler? i want to get larger washers for them
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      01-13-2020, 08:14 AM   #444
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any one know the bolt size of the bolts that come with the csf intercooler? i want to get larger washers for them
Nope. I just picked a couple bigger washers out of my washer collection and stuck them on there. All you need to do is take them to the hardware store and match some up.
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      01-13-2020, 08:34 PM   #445
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Nope. I just picked a couple bigger washers out of my washer collection and stuck them on there. All you need to do is take them to the hardware store and match some up.
well the m2 is my only car so the csf intercooler installed at the time.

i found another guys post for 3/8" washers. I got the 3/8" x 1.25inch washers since the csf screws are bigger then the oem screws.

I stacked the csf washers with the 3/8" washers from home depot. It provided a good amount of surface to support the csf intercooler tabs.

My boost pipe fell off when the intercooler tabs went past the csf provided washers...i already thought they were undersized when i installed them but i thought i could get away with it but obviously not.
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      01-28-2020, 11:54 AM   #446
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VRSF Intercooler vs stock
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      01-28-2020, 01:47 PM   #447
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Good illustration as to why you need to remove the front brace to install. ^^^^^ It's much thicker than stock.
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      01-28-2020, 06:38 PM   #448
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Good illustration as to why you need to remove the front brace to install. ^^^^^ It's much thicker than stock.
The front brace doesn't need to be removed to install
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Which intercooler is that? Any of them much wider than stock will rub the brace and condenser. Sure you can cram them in there but you'll have 0 clearance and rub.
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      01-29-2020, 08:13 AM   #450
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Which intercooler is that? Any of them much wider than stock will rub the brace and condenser. Sure you can cram them in there but you'll have 0 clearance and rub.
You're spewing info out of nowhere.


I have the VRSF 5" and you don't need to remove the front brace. It doesn't rub anything either. There's a ton of void space that the OEM intercooler doesn't utilize.
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You're spewing info out of nowhere.


I have the VRSF 5" and you don't need to remove the front brace. It doesn't rub anything either. There's a ton of void space that the OEM intercooler doesn't utilize.
It's not out of nowhere, that's why I asked which intercooler it was. The 6 1/2" that I had from them had major interference issues with the brace in place.
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i barely fit my 5.5inch csf intercooler in my m2...i think a 6inch would be really pushing it, no way a 6.5inch would fit without removing the front braces.
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Question...I am planning on my M2 daily use, stage 1 (currently stock) and will most likely only get an exhaust system (not even downpipe)..Will you recommend to upgrade IC and charge pipes?

If so,which brand, size and why?

Car is 28k km, I live in Italy so I get the chance to fuel with 98/100 octanes
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Question...I am planning on my M2 daily use, stage 1 (currently stock) and will most likely only get an exhaust system (not even downpipe)..Will you recommend to upgrade IC and charge pipes?

If so,which brand, size and why?

Car is 28k km, I live in Italy so I get the chance to fuel with 98/100 octanes
I would get a 5" intercooler + charge pipe since car will be tuned
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I would get a 5" intercooler + charge pipe since car will be tuned
For example? CSF and Wagner?

Also, I am considering for an intake, but it looks like the money is not worth the effort, so I might just upgrade with a nice sport filter my oem airbox...
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For example? CSF and Wagner?

Also, I am considering for an intake, but it looks like the money is not worth the effort, so I might just upgrade with a nice sport filter my oem airbox...
Both are quality replacements and much better than stock.
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For example? CSF and Wagner?

Also, I am considering for an intake, but it looks like the money is not worth the effort, so I might just upgrade with a nice sport filter my oem airbox...

Both these options are 5" , high quality intercoolers.

Other options include VRSF 5" & Active Autowerke
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      02-12-2020, 04:12 AM   #458
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And what about forge motorsport components? Has anyone tried that?
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      02-12-2020, 05:08 AM   #459
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Litchfield tuners in the UK use the forge intercooler, it's not a stepped design. I think it relies more on increased fin density than anything else and better flow design but don't quote me on that.
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I would get a 5" intercooler + charge pipe since car will be tuned
If going Wagner for this setup evo 1 or 2? Seems like the larger evo 2 would be worth the better cooling w/o causing any lag due to the improved pressure drop?
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If going Wagner for this setup evo 1 or 2? Seems like the larger evo 2 would be worth the better cooling w/o causing any lag due to the improved pressure drop?
Either one would work. If you live in a warm weather are, i would get the EVO II
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