[Poochie]

Originally Posted by omasou

I've seen posts that it doesn't cause issues with updates?

I believe the software can see the amp/module it only the output that is rerouted to nowhere.

Can you link where your saw this..

It's not some miracle plug, with voodoo magic to eliminate ASD, it's just a re-pinned harness that kills the sound.

If any of the system is not working, as design, it generates "shadow codes." and disable the ASD system, where, as a result, as disables the audio bass, which can prevents a dealer update.

This is why some of you guys with this harness installed complain about how crappy the HK system sounds; what you actually did there is actually disable the bass in the system, hence the tinny sound.. What did you expect :

I tested this theory above, when one of my under-seat woofer went bad.

I'm not saying you can never get your vehicle updated or repaired, just put back on the stock harness.


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[omasou]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Can you link where your saw this..

It's not some miracle plug, with voodoo magic to eliminate ASD, it's just a re-pinned harness that kills the sound.

If any of the system is not working, as design, it generates "shadow codes." and disable the ASD system, where, as a result, as disables the audio bass, which can prevents a dealer update.

This is why some of you guys with this harness installed complain about how crappy the HK system sounds; what you actually did there is actually disable the bass in the system, hence the tinny sound.. What did you expect :

I tested this theory above, when one of my under-seat woofer went bad.

I'm not saying you can never get your vehicle updated or repaired, just put back on the stock harness.


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I cannot find the original post that I read but yes this was a big deciding factor to use the harness b/c I didn't want to be ripping it out every time I brought the car in for service.

I believe, I have had the car programmed twice since installing the harness but my paperwork is a mess to search through to confirm. Couple things though. Dealers only reprogram if you have a documented reproducible issue and even then only touch the module(s) they need to. It's rarer for them to reprogram the entire system. That said, if they did and the harness was an issue then yes a major PITA.

I did find these posts that do confirm the harness doesn't impact programming b/c the diagnostics can still see the factory amp and that the harness kills the ASD output to the speakers.

See #2 which confirms seeing the factory amp and #3 that explains and reference another detailed article.

https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1598607

EDIT: found it!

https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show...7&postcount=20

There's also no footprint left in the ECU that you've done anything to the car, as the ASD module continues to answer diagnostic polls and all values remain at factory default.

[Fabb]

Originally Posted by maxrev30

meaning instead of paying say 5,000 out of pocket for the mpe exhaust you can add that 5,000 into your financing and pay for it in the monthly payments for the car itself. so the parts are included in the price

Isn't that quite obvious? That's part of your MSRP so you can definitely finance those parts. However I do enjoy the liberty of being able to mod your own car and retain your OEM parts. With optioning at port, you'll most likely lose your OEM exhaust over MPE

[maxrev30]

Originally Posted by Fabb

Isn't that quite obvious? That's part of your MSRP so you can definitely finance those parts. However I do enjoy the liberty of being able to mod your own car and retain your OEM parts. With optioning at port, you'll most likely lose your OEM exhaust over MPE

yes i feel the same way about that. i would rather purchase it then get the parts so i have both cause they effectively charge you out the ass for the m performance exhaust and keep your standard one...