[AZ-Wildcat]

Originally Posted by johnnyace

Anyone running this size with MP coilovers at stock drop with no spacers or camber plates?

Yes. There's a member on here who has 255/275/35 on MP coils, no issues. That's the tire size I'll be moving to after.

[kart driver]

I have 763 rims and big OEM brakes (2NH - the ones with silver calipers) on my M2C.


The car is primarily used fir long journeys and spirited driving. Would adding M performance coilovers improve handling without sacrificing comfort?

The ability of the suspension to tolerate poor roads is very important, as the roads where I live, are far from being perfect.

[M Fifty]

The springs are stiffer, so if you're driving slowly on poor surfaces you're going to notice.

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

The springs are stiffer, so if you're driving slowly on poor surfaces you're going to notice.

true but damping responses are far superior

[kart driver]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

The springs are stiffer, so if you're driving slowly on poor surfaces you're going to notice.

But I read in this forum that some share their experience, that the ride quality on poor roads was NOT decreased after the install of the M Perfomance coilovers

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by kart driver

But I read in this forum that some share their experience, that the ride quality on poor roads was NOT decreased after the install of the M Perfomance coilovers

Agree 100% (plus having 18" wheels & tyres with more sidewall helps too) ;-)

[325smg]

Just wondering where is the knob to adjust the compression of the rear damper?

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by 325smg

Just wondering where is the knob to adjust the compression of the rear damper?

comp adjuster wheel at the bottom of rear damper body

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PDF/BMW_M...ion_Manual.pdf

[325smg]

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

comp adjuster wheel at the bottom of rear damper body

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PDF/BMW_M...ion_Manual.pdf

Thanks!

[Nitromidah]

Originally Posted by kart driver

But I read in this forum that some share their experience, that the ride quality on poor roads was NOT decreased after the install of the M Perfomance coilovers

I bought the M Performance suspension, and I felt the difference IMMEDIATELY as I was leaving the dealership. The dampening improvement is incredible. It is slightly stiffer feeling, but the dampening more than makes up for it.

In my opinion, totally worth buying. You can stiffen up the dampening with a knob before hitting the track.

Two thumbs up from me!

[3t3p]

explain this to me, when a car is stiffer but has better damping, how does that translate in the real world?

Damping I thought is returning the wheel back down after an upward force which the springs absorb. And damping is what reduced ocillation if you go over a bump.

I'm trying to picture the M perf coilovers, where it is stiffer but better damped?

[M Fifty]

Springs "return the wheel back down after an upward force", the dampers are there to slow that down (both in bump and rebound) and stop it oscillating. HTH

[kart driver]

Originally Posted by Nitromidah

I bought the M Performance suspension, and I felt the difference IMMEDIATELY as I was leaving the dealership. The dampening improvement is incredible. It is slightly stiffer feeling, but the dampening more than makes up for it.

In my opinion, totally worth buying. You can stiffen up the dampening with a knob before hitting the track.

Two thumbs up from me!

So would you buy it if the roads were significantly worse than those in Germany?


Ability to drive on poor roads is very important in my case

[csbear]

I have MP coilovers that were installed by the dealer.

From wheel bottom to fender, I'm about 595 mm front, and 610 mm rear. (without any load)

Tech said he couldn't go any lower on the rears (although 600 mm is the BMW recommended height).

It doesn't really bother me much, and it gives somewhat of a positive rake which is fine.

However, anything that might have stopped him from going lower in the rear?

[M Fifty]

Take a picture of the the rear spring adjuster. It's tricky to adjust the last few mm due to clearance issues for the c-spanners.

[omasou]

Originally Posted by csbear

I have MP coilovers that were installed by the dealer.

From wheel bottom to fender, I'm about 595 mm front, and 610 mm rear. (without any load)

Tech said he couldn't go any lower on the rears (although 600 mm is the BMW recommended height).

It doesn't really bother me much, and it gives somewhat of a positive rake which is fine.

However, anything that might have stopped him from going lower in the rear?

see post #5

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2#post24922742

Though if this were the problem, I think it would be a lot higher.

[csbear]

Originally Posted by omasou

see post #5

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2#post24922742

Though if this were the problem, I think it would be a lot higher.

Thanks omasou and M Fifty.

I'll see where the rear spring adjuster is when I get a chance.

I believe you both are correct. If the rear spring cup was still in there, I think my rear would be a lot higher as the cup seems to be more than 10mm thick. And I would probably get some funny noises.

And from what the tech said, it was tricky to get those last few mm for the rears. That seems to be the common thought regarding the M Performance coils vs the KWv3... the rears are not as adjustable on the MP coils. Which is ok by me.

Omasou - I've seen your post before, but I will just say: the 763m look amazing, especially with the drop... I am seriously considering a set. Are those 19x9 ET29 19x10 ET40 ?

[omasou]

Originally Posted by csbear

Thanks omasou and M Fifty.

I'll see where the rear spring adjuster is when I get a chance.

I believe you both are correct. If the rear spring cup was still in there, I think my rear would be a lot higher as the cup seems to be more than 10mm thick. And I would probably get some funny noises.

And from what the tech said, it was tricky to get those last few mm for the rears. That seems to be the common thought regarding the M Performance coils vs the KWv3... the rears are not as adjustable on the MP coils. Which is ok by me.

Omasou - I've seen your post before, but I will just say: the 763m look amazing, especially with the drop... I am seriously considering a set. Are those 19x9 ET29 19x10 ET40 ?

Yes, they're the M2 sizes (19" F&R).

This guy is running the M3/M4 CS orbit gray sizes on his M2, so they do work.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=26447680

[csbear]

Here are my rears (sorry for the large pic).

Seems to have a little space between the adjuster and body. Tech probably had some difficulty with getting those last few mm.

I don't see the rear spring cup, so that's good.

[M Fifty]

Well, subject to each end of the coil being properly seated, it looks like you've got more than 5mm of adjustment to go on the adjuster, and hence this ia where your 10mm of ride height adjustment is hiding.

Noting that KW suggest dropping the rear suspension to set the adjuster on the V3 (although that sits the other end of the main spring), and the lack of space to get the c-spanner in there, it might be easiest to relieve the pressure on the spring by supporting the rear hub, undoing the damper top mounts and then carefully lowering the suspension before making adjustments.

HTH

[csbear]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

Well, subject to each end of the coil being properly seated, it looks like you've got more than 5mm of adjustment to go on the adjuster, and hence this ia where your 10mm of ride height adjustment is hiding.

Noting that KW suggest dropping the rear suspension to set the adjuster on the V3 (although that sits the other end of the main spring), and the lack of space to get the c-spanner in there, it might be easiest to relieve the pressure on the spring by supporting the rear hub, undoing the damper top mounts and then carefully lowering the suspension before making adjustments.

HTH

Thanks! Since I can't really work on my car anymore (due to some lower back issues), when I get the chance I'll take it to a shop or dealer to adjust the height. As you said, it seems they had trouble getting the c-spanner in there.

Edit: Also, I assume the KWv3 set does not have the black rubber piece, just underneath the adjuster, correct?

[M Fifty]

Originally Posted by csbear

Thanks! Since I can't really work on my car anymore (due to some lower back issues), when I get the chance I'll take it to a shop or dealer to adjust the height. As you said, it seems they had trouble getting the c-spanner in there.

Edit: Also, I assume the KWv3 set does not have the black rubber piece, just underneath the adjuster, correct?

They appear to use rear springs with a flat ground into the ends of the coil, so have no need for the rubber seat that the MPS uses.