[tke743]

Struts/Shocks/Springs - Parts are the same (Euro BMW Site showing Comp parts and RealOEM showing LCI). I wasn't looking for the "ball joints".

M2 LCI

Front Struts


Front Springs


Rear Shock and Spring


M2 Comp

Front Struts


Front Springs


Rear Shock and Spring

[hellrotm]

This should clear it up. Glad it won’t have a stiffer ride than the M2.

[Tag]

So they didn't change a thing? WTF is this BS, a bait and switch PR campaign?

[tke743]

Originally Posted by Tag

So they didn't change a thing? WTF is this BS, a bait and switch PR campaign?

I'll look for the mythical ball joints later.

[chmura]

So the springs are the same too?

[tke743]

Originally Posted by chmura

So the springs are the same too?

Same exact part number. So yes. I'll pick through the full suspension to see if anything else has changed. Ball joints, sway bars, etc.

[chmura]

Originally Posted by tke743

Same exact part number. So yes. I'll pick through the full suspension to see if anything else has changed. Ball joints, sway bars, etc.

That odd. I would think the spring rate would change due to the weight difference.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by chmura

That odd. I would think the spring rate would change due to the weight difference.

+1

And if they change the spring rates they must change the damper rates to match. They even said the rear suspension had a new ball joint setup. None of it makes sense.

[tke743]

Originally Posted by Tag

+1

And if they change the spring rates they must change the damper rates to match. They even said the rear suspension had a new ball joint setup. None of it makes sense.

I will look for the ball joints later. I was just comparing the shocks/struts/ springs. They are all the same. They did say the M2 Comp was more "compliant". If there are ball joints instead of bushings, and an extra 3% of weight (what we've been told the weight difference is) then the springs and struts being the same will make it more "compliant".

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by tke743

I will look for the ball joints later. I was just comparing the shocks/struts/ springs. They are all the same. They did say the M2 Comp was more "compliant". If there are ball joints instead of bushings, and an extra 3% of weight (what we've been told the weight difference is) then the springs and struts being the same will make it more "compliant".

If they stiffened the chassis via the carbon strutbrace and new additional bulkhead bracing. Using the existing M2 springs/dampers would lead to a more compliant suspension with a more rigid chassis. Sounds like a winner if indeed people who have driven the car say it is more compliant.

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

If they stiffened the chassis via the carbon strutbrace and new additional bulkhead bracing. Using the existing M2 springs/dampers would lead to a more compliant suspension with a more rigid chassis. Sounds like a winner if indeed people who have driven the car say it is more compliant.

My favorite thing about my M2 was the chassis. It was stiff and planted.

Unless the reviews are from real daily driving on public roads, no way to know if it is more compliant. On a track, everything feels compliant.

On the M2C, I think it is fair to complain about the added weight and the very visible muffler, but I suspect the chassis and suspension to be a total homerun once again.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

My favorite thing about my M2 was the chassis. It was stiff and planted.

Unless the reviews are from real daily driving on public roads, no way to know if it is more compliant. On a track, everything feels compliant.

My concern as well. The rear end is known to have wheel hop, was hopeful the revised suspension took care of that and improved the ride overall. Guess not.

[tke743]

I"ll pick through the rest of the suspension tonight. Doesn't matter as much to me, except as a curiosity, as my Ohlins will move over to this chassis.

[Poochie]

I don't believe they change much from the M2 except for the 'ball joints' to be named later.. Everything else was just marketing hype..

I guess that's good and bad, knowing it won't feel much different, handling wise, to the current M2. However, everyone were expecting more revised vehicle.

[Motivate]

Kind of expected. If they revised everything in the suspension, the MSRP would be around $62k.

[MR.]

Guys, just wait until the embargo. I drove one only a manual on track and a short bit on the road, too short for a decent story but I can tell you what is different.

Unfortunately I did not drive a DCT so I cannot compare the drivetrain between my M2 and the M2C, people on site f**ked that up. I am not a happy bunny about it, but that is life. At least I can tell you a few bits and pieces on Monday night.

I am just stunned the head of engineering was talking opposite of what was written in the press release. At the time I was like what the heck is he saying and now I am like, he did not have a clue what he was saying...

Add that to the fact the unsprung mass is 21 kg higher in the wheel area and you are like...

MR

[MR_M2]

Looking at the massive demand for new ball joints, BMW may very well add it to their M performance accessories lineup

[tke743]

Originally Posted by MR.

Guys, just wait until the embargo. I drove one only a manual on track and a bit on the road, too short for a decent story but I can tell you what is different.

MR

And when does that end?

[F87_LCI]

Originally Posted by Tag

My concern as well. The rear end is known to have wheel hop, was hopeful the revised suspension took care of that and improved the ride overall. Guess not.

This is why I swapped out the OG suspension for Ohlins R&T. Rear wheel hop/chatter...gonzo...and not lowered to the point where I have to turn my baseball hat to one side...if you know what I mean.

[MR.]

Originally Posted by tke743

And when does that end?

Monday night I drop my story.

I will write it on the plane back home.

I am happy I bought it, not so happy how much I have to spend to improve it with lighter wheels and carbon parts.

MR

[MR.]

Originally Posted by Tag

My concern as well. The rear end is known to have wheel hop, was hopeful the revised suspension took care of that and improved the ride overall. Guess not.

It is what I wanted to test and which I did not manage to do, and it annoys me.

MR

[Tag]

Originally Posted by MR.

Monday night I drop my story.

I will write it on the plane back home.

I am happy I bought it, not so happy how much I have to spend to improve it with lighter wheels and carbon parts.

MR

Were you also able to drive it on the streets or was it all track time?