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      05-11-2021, 10:31 PM   #23
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My dealer told me yesterday that BMW has extended the F87 into 22 and they are taking orders for the 22 model now FWIW.
Interesting...can you name the dealer and their source for the this news?
A dealer told me model year 2019 was the last year for m2c. Dealers don't know anything. Insiders post the start and end date on the forum for all the cars, they would have updated the post that keeps track of these dates with an update to the m2 if that were true.
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      05-12-2021, 07:14 AM   #24
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If the allocation falls thru, there are a couple of really nice looking MT M4's in the Roundel classifieds, and MT M2's seem to slowly turn up at a fairly regular rate (not to suggest that people are actually not as in-love w/ MT as they thought they should be or anything....).

And PCD is free, and a great time. Unless you have something against it, I'd do it for sure. None of the M-school stuff will compare to a real HPDE, but it is lots of fun. You'll get to drive somebody else's M2C on a wet skidpad and a little tracking, plus top notch intro session to learn all the details. It does mean you'll be scrubbing the bugs off before you get to add PPF if that is a big thing.
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      05-12-2021, 08:44 AM   #25
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How's the difference in drive and handling as compared to CTR? I have a 435ix on coiloves but the CTR suspension feels way better, it feels very planted on corners.
Its VERY different. The CTR's handling and suspension makes the M2C feel sloppy honestly. This is a trade-off that I can accept though because it feels really good to be back in a RWD Torque monster. The ride is stiff like a mix of some sport mode and a lot of +R mode, but all the time. I didn't realize how much I liked EDC until now.

The only things I miss in the R are the gearbox and the bucket seats. The M seats are just not as supportive as the R seats. While the R gearbox and 2nd gear is far from perfect, the shifts felt more direct. I had to slow my shifting down with the M gearbox a little. There's a weird rubbery feel to it, can't really describe.

With the CTR, I was confident in every turn and twist, as it was pinpoint precision. The M2C has gobs of power to make up for the lack of said precision. By no means is it bad, it's just directly compared between the two, it's not as precise as the R. It is a different kind of fun but I'm loving it so far.
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Its VERY different. The CTR's handling and suspension makes the M2C feel sloppy honestly. This is a trade-off that I can accept though because it feels really good to be back in a RWD Torque monster. The ride is stiff like a mix of some sport mode and a lot of +R mode, but all the time. I didn't realize how much I liked EDC until now.

The only things I miss in the R are the gearbox and the bucket seats. The M seats are just not as supportive as the R seats. While the R gearbox and 2nd gear is far from perfect, the shifts felt more direct. I had to slow my shifting down with the M gearbox a little. There's a weird rubbery feel to it, can't really describe.

With the CTR, I was confident in every turn and twist, as it was pinpoint precision. The M2C has gobs of power to make up for the lack of said precision. By no means is it bad, it's just directly compared between the two, it's not as precise as the R. It is a different kind of fun but I'm loving it so far.
We test drove an OG M2 yesterday and the suspension didn't feel anywhere close to that of CTR. I didn't realize how bad the suspension on my BMW was until I rode in the TR, they really knocked it out of the park with suspension and handling. You are right about the seats too, I'm 6' ~170lbs and I've to pull myself out of those seats They hold you pretty snug. Are you planning to upgrade the suspension or lower the car? Do they have any HAS kit for this car?
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We test drove an OG M2 yesterday and the suspension didn't feel anywhere close to that of CTR. I didn't realize how bad the suspension on my BMW was until I rode in the TR, they really knocked it out of the park with suspension and handling. You are right about the seats too, I'm 6' ~170lbs and I've to pull myself out of those seats They hold you pretty snug. Are you planning to upgrade the suspension or lower the car? Do they have any HAS kit for this car?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I was really surprised, and it made me appreciate the R a lot more. I have a feeling I'll be looking to get another R in the future, that car was truly such a fun driving car.

Looks like KW makes a kit, but I'm not looking to upgrade anything yet. I'm just learning how this car behaves. Have to tame the new beast first
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      05-12-2021, 10:59 AM   #28
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We test drove an OG M2 yesterday and the suspension didn't feel anywhere close to that of CTR. I didn't realize how bad the suspension on my BMW was until I rode in the TR, they really knocked it out of the park with suspension and handling. You are right about the seats too, I'm 6' ~170lbs and I've to pull myself out of those seats They hold you pretty snug. Are you planning to upgrade the suspension or lower the car? Do they have any HAS kit for this car?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I was really surprised, and it made me appreciate the R a lot more. I have a feeling I'll be looking to get another R in the future, that car was truly such a fun driving car.

Looks like KW makes a kit, but I'm not looking to upgrade anything yet. I'm just learning how this car behaves. Have to tame the new beast first
I really am not surprised by your type r suspension comments because the m2's is simply not thay good... i have a comp and the suspension is really bad when you are either on bouncy, crooked or non perfect surfaces... i just dont get how a car for just over half price can have a better out of the box setup
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I was really surprised, and it made me appreciate the R a lot more. I have a feeling I'll be looking to get another R in the future, that car was truly such a fun driving car.

Looks like KW makes a kit, but I'm not looking to upgrade anything yet. I'm just learning how this car behaves. Have to tame the new beast first
As a former FG2 and FD2 (oh yes ) owner the choice of the M2C over the CTR, was the last one I made as I pro/con'd all the options out there to get down to one to buy. But agree that maybe the next gen (the 'last' all petrol engine one?) might need to be a future purchase.
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OP not sure if this helps, but last July I purchased a 2020 M2C from Budds' BMW.

Options:
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- DCT
- Harmon Kardon Sound
- Sunroof

Got it for $78K @ 1.99. Would recommend these Budds' if you're in the GTA.
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I think discounts on MSRP are a thing of the past as demand has now far exceeded supply.

I've been on the hunt and Pacific BMW is taking advantage of the market by raising their price by $5k above invoice!

I don't judge anybody and understand they are just doing what the market dictates, but it really leaves people in my position frustrated. Much like the CA housing market
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      05-13-2021, 06:26 PM   #32
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I think discounts on MSRP are a thing of the past as demand has now far exceeded supply.

I've been on the hunt and Pacific BMW is taking advantage of the market by raising their price by $5k above invoice!

I don't judge anybody and understand they are just doing what the market dictates, but it really leaves people in my position frustrated. Much like the CA housing market
Wow that's shitty. Irvine BMW gave me 500 off for a June production allocation.
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      05-15-2021, 06:24 AM   #33
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OP not sure if this helps, but last July I purchased a 2020 M2C from Budds' BMW.

Options:
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- DCT
- Harmon Kardon Sound
- Sunroof

Got it for $78K @ 1.99. Would recommend these Budds' if you're in the GTA.
What spec, wheels etc if you don’t mind me asking?

I wonder if the M2C market in Canada is as hot
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      05-15-2021, 09:24 PM   #34
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I got $1500 off and Mperformance floor mats. Should be here late summer. It was really hard to get the discount.

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      05-16-2021, 06:50 PM   #35
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I got $1500 off and Mperformance floor mats. Should be here late summer. It was really hard to get the discount.

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I think you did very well...I would have assumed they would have had no problem moving that allocation at MSRP, but each situation is unique I am sure. Nice one!
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      05-17-2021, 12:54 AM   #36
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Thanks man, yes very happy! The other dealers in Colorado wouldn't budge one penny off MSRP.
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      05-17-2021, 05:57 PM   #37
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I got $1500 off and Mperformance floor mats. Should be here late summer. It was really hard to get the discount.

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I ordered the same build mid April in Chicago and only managed to get $1k off. I feel like I lucked out as well, but I guess I’ll be happy once I finally get the car sometime next month.
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      05-18-2021, 10:56 AM   #38
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OP any luck in finding the M2C? Im also in the market for one and trying to get that 0.9% for 60 months finance, which is an awesome deal.
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      05-18-2021, 02:03 PM   #39
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OP not sure if this helps, but last July I purchased a 2020 M2C from Budds' BMW.

Options:
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- DCT
- Harmon Kardon Sound
- Sunroof

Got it for $78K @ 1.99. Would recommend these Budds' if you're in the GTA.
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I got $1500 off and Mperformance floor mats. Should be here late summer. It was really hard to get the discount.

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OP any luck in finding the M2C? Im also in the market for one and trying to get that 0.9% for 60 months finance, which is an awesome deal.
We booked one at MSRP. HS 6MT, Executive Pack with Sunroof. Financing hasn't been decided yet, for now we traded in the Civic Type R, I think we need to wait till the car gets here, should be under 2% for 60 months. Right now the status is "Scheduled For Production".

fryrice It's towards the end of production so you will have to act fast. Used ones are selling for a ridiculous price!

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Thanks, just called my local dealer and they have an HS, 6MT, exe pkg, orange stitch coming in 2 wks.

I just gave them my deposit and they offer 2% off MSRP.

Its my first BMW and very excited for the car
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Thanks, just called my local dealer and they have an HS, 6MT, exe pkg, orange stitch coming in 2 wks.

I just gave them my deposit and they offer 2% off MSRP.

Its my first BMW and very excited for the car
Congrats, welcome to the club!
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What spec, wheels etc if you don’t mind me asking?

I wonder if the M2C market in Canada is as hot
Got the 788M wheels - I think the demand for cars in general is just high right now, can't match supply
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So not sure if this is the place to ask, but anyone dealt with the BMW Select program?

The online estimate is giving me a monthly payment of $551 about $56 difference per month different than the dealer provided. That is about $3360 in the life of the loan.

My sales rep said sales tax, doc fee is not factor into the BMW online calculator. The MSRP is $61,645, discount of $1233

Adj price = $60,412
Doc fee = $495
Tax (MA) = $3806.69
Non Tax fees= $170
Balance = $64,883.69

Down payment of $14000
60 months = $607
Balloon payment = $16,027.70
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